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Massacres & mass graves

The news from Iraq tells of a stream of ISIS massacres. There is not even time to list these all. Maybe it is not even necessary, as the circumstances are not really questioned. ISIS usually takes responsibility for the killings.

The Iraqi government said Sunday that at least 322 members of the Al-Bu Nimr tribe were murdered by Islamic State fighters over the past week, including dozens of women and children whose bodies were found dumped in a well.
Tribal leader Sheikh Naeem al-Ga'oud said that 75 members of his tribe were killed on Sunday while trying to escape the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS). They were gunned down and dumped near the town of Haditha.

-- Petri Krohn (talk) 22:53, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

It's true, or I think advisable, that we focus our energies on events that aren't just horrible but also contested or controversial (or should be!). So this isn't so much an area we need to cover. That said, there will be some mysteries and points of disagreement almost anywhere, and some value just in having a good grasp of events, so no reason to prioritize it right to zero either. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:58, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


The author writes of his visit to the front lines near Mosul, speaking with Kurdish fighters and refugees from the rest of Iraq. He writes of oil refineries surrounded by "countless tanker trucks with Turkish license plates," since "Turkey is investing heavily, and it has been building everything here," as their strongest partner (third in trading after the US and Israel) and by some sources " is running almost the entire Iraqi Kurdistan." He sees unjust management, communities and schools neglected as only a few Kurds and many foreigners grow rich.

Now the Autonomous Kurdish Region of Iraq (with Erbil as its capital) is trying to promote itself as relatively stable and increasingly prosperous, ‘unlike the rest of Iraq’. It has some of the greatest oil reserves in the world, and therefore attracts huge investments from the West. While the rest of Iraq is bathing in blood, decomposing economically and socially, this part of the country is ‘not allowed to collapse’, due to the strategic importance it has to the United States and Europe.

ISIS is of course the new face of that strife, and its conquest of Mosul and much of Iraq, which has been credibly connected to clandestine help from the Turkish government. The Turkish-sponsored Kurdish fighters are told ISIS is using artillery that was supplied by Iran. [1] They are happy to have American air strikes to help turn back the Iranian-sponsored enemy. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:58, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Powerful quotes from locals Vltchek interviewed:

“I used to teach and to create, I used to contribute to the building my country. Then Iraq was invaded and destroyed. I can do nothing, now… I have nothing… Now I only sleep and eat. And that is exactly what the West wants – they want to destroy our minds!”
“Kurdish people are playing it both ways: they say one thing to the West, another to the Iraqi government. France, Germany, US – they are clearly betting on an ‘independent’ Kurdistan. The West wants to break Iraq, once and for all. They have already created a deep divide between the Shia and Sunnis, and they will go much further. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey – those are all close allies of the US and they are involved in the project. You speak against the plan – and you get killed.” [1] --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:58, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
  • A meeting in Mosul -Cassad, 3 February, 2019
    Meeting in Mosul. The American soldiers met with the pro-Iranian Shiite militia "Hashd-Shaabi", which put a kind of checkpoint in the path of the American patrol. (Ended peacefully; apparently some sort of pressure-via-'protection'. ) --19:38, 3 February 2019 (UTC)



  1. 1.0 1.1 ‘Iraqi Kurdistan’ – Western Fifth Column in the Middle East by ANDRE VLTCHEK, Counterpunch, WEEKEND EDITION NOVEMBER 28-30, 2014