Talk:Irma Krat's flash drive

From A Closer Look On Syria
Jump to navigation Jump to search


Pravy Sector kill list

Back-Story

I'm not even sure what's being alleged here. A police chief slaughtered, his wife raped, I gather. I read there was recently a shakeup with the Donetsk police chief, one resigning by protester demand, another replacing him. Is this the old one or the new? Is Pravi Sector killing an enemy hoping to frame Russian-types, killing their ally for the same reason, Russian pretending to be PS, pretending or not to be someone else? Okay, just which chief is a good start. Apparently he hasn't turned up alive yet? There were claims this is all fake, and the blood looked a bit questionable. But now that I see the wound, it looks less fake for sure. Still possible, somewhat. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

There are two aspects to the story:
  1. A snuff video exists. Is it real or fake? In fact we now have two videos with footage from both the A and B cameras. (Do snuff video producers use film industry terminology, like A and B camera?)
  2. The back story, as relayed on anti-Maida and anti-fascist web sites is that Pravy Sector created the video and uploaded it on one of their social media sites (I assume VK). This was quickly taken down, but someone managed to download a copy that is now circulating. For evidence of this I would also like to see a screenshot of the Pravy Sector account with the video.
Creating videos like this as tools of terror is not new, we have seen thousands in Syria. Pravy Sector is yet another US sponsored terror group like the ones producing similar footage in Syria. It is thus quite possible that they would emulate methods found effective Syria. And if you were to ask Anthony Cartalucci or Stan Winer they would point to a 60 year history of US sponsored terror. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 18:28, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

From Wikipedia: Dnepropetrovsk maniacs

The Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (Ukrainian: Дніпропетровські маніяки, Russian: Днепропетровские маньяки) are the killers responsible for a string of murders in Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine in June and July 2007. The case gained additional notoriety because the killers made video recordings of some of the murders, with one of the videos leaking to the Internet. Two 19‑year-old locals, Viktor Sayenko (Ukrainian: Віктор Саєнко, Russian: Виктор Саенко) and Igor Suprunyuck (Ukrainian: Ігор Супрунюк, Russian: Игорь Супрунюк), were arrested and charged with 21 murders.

-- Petri Krohn (talk) 19:20, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

General

This won't look good next to the Yarosh business cards thing. Which, I notice, has made him the presidential candidate with the coolest calling card around, just a month ahead of elections. How about his armbands connected to a high-profile murder-rape? Many will be anti-convinced by this. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Sources

Press

Video

Now on LiveLeaks:

Ukrainian fascists from Right Sector party killing ex-head of Donetsk police in front of his wife for non protecting anti-Russian rallies in Donetsk from raged pro-Russian city citizens

Mustafa Nayyem

Truth about situation in Ukraine on Facebook

Mustafa Nayyem is responsible for recent staged videos about executions by Praviy Sector. His correspondence was hacked by Anon and it revealed some interesting details. And he calls himself a journalist? Please save and share http://ntv.livejournal.com/353029.html?nojs=1
This is how the KIEV JUNTA USES JOURNALISTS AND MASS MEDIA for their propaganda and psychological war!
Details of their collaboration in English as follows. Mustafa Nayyem (or Nayem) is a popular Ukrainian journalist and public figure, former journalist of newspaper "Kommersant-Ukrainy" and the TVi channel, currently working with the internet newspaper Ukrainskaya Pravda, also participates in the "Stop the censorship!" Ukrainian journalist movement and Hromadske TV project. In April 2013 he openly stated that he was not paid by politicians. However, as discovered by Anon, he was the one to FABRICATE VIDEOS FOR THE JUNTA'S INTERIOR MINISTER Arsen Avakov. On one of the videos a policeman is killed by people from the neo-nazi Right Sector. On the second one a Russian is hanged by the neo-nazis. The videos were fabricated to scare people and make them silent. Nayyem is also suspected to be the head of the special department working for the illegitimate authorities that is responsible for disinformation, propaganda and psychological war.
We post and translate the screens of Nayyem's and Avakov's FB chat, provided by Anon.
Nayyem: Hello, Arsen Borisovich (Avakov)! Here is the first part. (link) 18+ Fascists killing former head of Donetsk police in presence of his wife. Nayyem: Dmitry (Yarosh, head of the Right Sector) insists on more brutality! Could you talk to him, please. We have been discussing all this a dozen time. Avakov: Just ignore Yar (Yarosh). It's not his first priority now. And he will soon stop barking anyway. )) Nayyem: Heard you and got you. Nayyem: In search engines I see "Right Sector killing policeman", "Right Sector cutting throat". The video has spread well on the Internet. Avakov: You worked just beautifully, as always. )) Well done! Nayyem: Thanks again for your help with people. Avakov: Mustafa, what the heck! How could you be such an ass with Irma (Irma Krat, a euromaidan female activist, got caught by anti-junta protesters in Eastern Ukraine)? Nayyem: Arsen Borisovich, we did follow her, but I just can't be accountable for her! Avakov: You can't be accountable??? You are accountable for every step! Nayyem: Here, Arsen Borisovich, is the next part. (link) Execution of a Russian in Ukraine. Not yet in Yandex (search engine). But it is already available via Google search: "Right Sector hangs a policemen", "Right Sector is hanging a police officer".

James Foley beheading?

Questions have been raised about the authenticity of the James Foley beheading video:

-- Petri Krohn (talk) 15:28, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

November 2014

May 2015

Another execution video has been uploaded to YouTube:

Video penalty militias and a pregnant woman was found in the phone of one of the executioners Ukrainian battalion, the people's militia liquidated LC.
Revision NewsFront not guarantee in the authenticity of the recording. You can only be sure that the video was found murdered in the phone Avenging.
Details: http://news-front.info/2015/05/21/18-kazn-opolchenca-i-beremennoj-zhenshhiny-predpolozhitelno-batalonom-donbass/

The video shows two people executed (or mock executed) by hanging in a pine forest by three men that appear to be members of the Donbass Battalion. The makeshift gallows show signs that the spot may have been used for previous executions. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 22:14, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Likely fake -as others say (rusvesna and Sharii here) . It looks like a rope attached to a belt, like tree/mountain climbing belt, at mid-body, near center of gravity, not 'hang by the neck until they are dead'. Also unnatural movements. --Resup (talk) 23:25, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Report of General Prosecutor Office of the Lugansk Republic: Translation by Konstantin of Truth about situation in Ukraine on Facebook -- Petri Krohn (talk) 00:25, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

"During a special op, the LPR law enforcement officers found the sabotage-reconnaissance group of the Ukrainian forces, the head of the investigative Department of the LPR Prosecutor General Leonid Tkachenko told a briefing today. According to him, the operation was carried out in the vicinity of Lugansk on the 20th of May. As a result of the firefight, one of the Ukrainian saboteurs was eliminated, two more managed to run away. “During the detention of the Ukrainian sabotage-reconnaissance group, one of the bandits was killed. He had a mobile phone, which we seized and found a video of the murder of the militiaman and his pregnant wife. Ukrainian soldiers had hung them. According to the preliminary findings of the investigation, we can say that those Ukrainian soldiers in the video are members of the Ukrainian “Donbass” battalion,” – Leonid Tkachenko said."

Analysis

Kharkov 2022

This story and video is directly related to Ukrainian terror tactics. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 17:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

  • IN VIDEO 21+: UKRAINIAN NAZIS TORTURE PRISONERS OF WAR - South Front, March 28, 2022
    The victim was another Russian prisoner of war, Pyotr ******, who had previously been tortured by the Ukrainian armed forces.
    The video itself was filmed and distributed by the Nazis as an alleged example of how they deal with those who support Russia. The POW was disguised in civilian clothes before his execution. Ukrainian Nazis have surpassed ISIS in their atrocities. ISIS members, when carrying out executions on camera, usually drugged their victims.
Retrieved from "https://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Irma_Krat%27s_flash_drive&oldid=61480"