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Some speculation and analysis here: -- Petri Krohn (talk) 01:18, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

QZ8501

From Indonesia National SAR official briefing:

(all times local)

  • 05:36 QZ8501 departed Juanda airport, Surabaya
  • 06:12 Contacts Jakarta center 125.70 at FL320, requests weather deviation left of M635 airway and climb to FL380
  • 06:16 QZ8501 still observed on radar
  • 06:17 Radar contact lost. Radio contact lost. Only ADS-B signal remained.
  • 06:18 All contact lost. Only flight plan view on radar screen.
  • 07:08 ATC declares INCERFA (aircraft position uncertain)
  • 07:28 ATC declares ALERTFA (emergency alert)
  • 07:55 ATC declares DETRESFA (emergency distress)

ADS-B signal remained 1 minute after radar contact was lost. Same thing as MH17. Plane is destroyed, but transponder continues on original flight path for one extra minute! Only two possibilities for this.

  1. Flightradar24 is lying. Claims to have real ADS-B data picked up "off-the-air" but is in fact reporting extrapolated data.
  2. Plane is shadowed by a stealth fighter that is sending spoofed ADS-B data. Fighter pilot is slow to turn of spoof transmitter.

-- Petri Krohn (talk) 07:47, 29 December 2014 (UTC)