Talk:Sanaa funeral hall attack

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In Syria, USA, KSA, etc. always accept the claim it was an airstrike and laugh at supposed "spontaneous combustion" In Yemen, they're sure the airstrike claims are untrue and there's a mysterious "other case." coalition spokesman Maj. Gen. Ahmed Asiri told Arab News quite clearly "The Coalition is aware of such reports and is certain that it is possible that other causes of bombing is to be considered." They deny it.

Partial record of Saudi-coalition denials: 9 months ago Coalition denies using cluster bombs in Yemen, claiming a HRW report was "weak" and had no evidence. 8 months ago, Amnesty International found New Evidence Challenges Coalition's Denial It Used Cluster Munitions. " the spokesperson of the coalition’s military forces, General Ahmed al-Asiri, categorically denied that the coalition had ever used cluster munitions in attacks on Sana’a and claimed they had only used them in one attack in Yemen, on a military target in Hajjah in April 2015." But much evidence says they also bombed dawn worshippers in Sanaa with at least two deliberately dropped cluster bombs. 6 months ago, airstrike on a market (NYT) kills 106 3 weeks after another attack killed 39 civilians. "The Saudi-led coalition has repeatedly denied striking civilian targets," NYT reports, but a spokesman for the high commissioner for human rights, Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein, said “It would seem that the coalition is responsible for twice as many civilian casualties as all other forces put together,” (which includes the Houthis and allies and also Al Qaeda forces and Islamic State).

Why such indiscriminate attacks? Terrorism. It says "any of you can die at any time, and we can deny it, and this will continue until we get our way, so start helping us get our way and we can be done with this sooner." The latest attack is perhaps a more strategic revenge attack, with the same terrorist aspect as a side-note. --Caustic Logic (talk) 01:27, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Houthi / Yemen Army Retaliation

Multiple videos have appeared online alleged to be video of retaliation strikes on Saudi Bases. This includes multiple links on this page.

I'm a bit dubious about the first twitter linked video [1] as it shows a glowing incoming missile. Why would a missile in terminal descent after hundreds of km still be burning its motor? Yes, some advanced russian cruise missiles have hypersonic rocket attack stages, but I doubt they are in use Yemen.

Anyway, my uncorroborated contrib: Yemeni Army & The Houthies Launch a Ballistic missile and Hit King Fahd Airbase, Taif city, Saudi Arabia. --Charles Wood (talk) 22:17, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Volcano said to be Scud type. Scud D had terminal guidance system; North Korean versions, unclear, and Iranian, some,- Shahab 3. This has incoming glowing; this one, perhaps -a lot of light so unclear. C 802 maneuvers at terminal phase too --Resup (talk) 22:55, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Why does the missile glow? From the history of the development of ballistic missiles I recall that one of the challenges was creating a re-entry vehicle. I missile with a 1,000 km range has enough kinetic energy to destroy the warhead by friction. So I think the glow is just the heat from re-entry. There are not many re-entry videos online for missiles of this range, so it is hard to compare. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 23:08, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Fiery reentry happens in stratosphere, it is not that fast near ground, likely below sound, at terminal atmospheric velocity. (This looks as not very high, but not for sure; at reentry it moves at several km/s speeds and burns on entry, if it's really high, could be) --Resup (talk) 23:15, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
More Scud intercepts Note they only start burning after being intercepted. Surely Saudi would have similar missile defences for its bases? --Charles Wood (talk) 23:21, 10 October 2016 (UTC)