Talk:Jub al-Quba mortar massacre

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"Mortar massacre" ... didn't see that explained, so just a guess? Would be good to share what the guess is based on if so. I'm intrigued, for one. Good start on a page for the incident anyway, Petri. I'll see about adding to it. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:17, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Death Toll

We don't seem to be seeing a climbing death toll here, but rather two distinct numbers - one set of around 25 killed, the other around 45 killed. The opposition SNC claims it was 45 "Syrian Civil Defense services said that 45 civilians were killed in an artillery barrage by regime forces on a housing area for displaced people in rebel-held eastern Aleppo on Wednesday morning." Others say it was 45 total killed in Aleppo this day: SNHR says they "documented up to this moment, Wednesday November 30, 2016, the killing of (45) civilians by Government and pro-government (Russian) forces in different Syrian Governorates." (initial total number for the day). So that's most likely the 25 or so reported in this incident, plus 20 or so others.

As far as I've seen, there's evidence for perhaps 10 people killed in a strike in the street. Where and how anyone else died seems unclear. --Caustic Logic (talk) 07:40, 5 December 2016 (UTC)


Where Were They Going?

The opposition reports seem to not explain why these people had bags packed at the very moment they were hit. Were they just arriving from government-reclaimed areas, or were they just leaving this area to, perhaps, the government side? We have prior credible reports rebels kill people trying to cross over and cease being their human shields. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:28, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

The reports do add they were trying to do this in the early morning, perhaps because it was still dark. This is a time to flee undetected, not so much a likely time to be arriving from somewhere. Also, if dark, not the best time to be hit by airstrikes that would be, as usual, trying to kill any civilians they could find (allegedly). That works better in full daylight. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:31, 1 December 2016 (UTC)