Talk:Alleged Chemical Attack, May 27, 2013

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Timing

The reported attack, by pure chance, coincided with EU debates to renew or modify European arms embargoes on Syria; France and the UK wanted to end the embargo on the rebels and start arming them, while the rest of Europe disagreed. An AP report noted: "The talks had been billed as a pivotal opportunity for the bloc to overcome differences about whether to ease sanctions against Syria to allow arms shipments to the rebels. Earlier, France added urgency to the debate, with Fabius pointing to increasing signs that chemical weapons were being used in the conflict." That it was increasingly reported again right then might have helped underline the fact. --Caustic Logic (talk) 00:23, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Update, obviously, by morning the EU had in fact decided to allow arming of rebels, but not yet to do it, while still no one can arm the gassing butcher Assad. The "Euro-guns threat," as I'll call it, is said to be thought to be sure to exert pressure on "Assad" to "negotiate in good faith," ie surrender to rebel demands now and/or die in flames along with many others. The alleged chemical attacks of May 26 and 27 certainly had some at least minor impact on the decision to formalize the Euro-guns threat. --Caustic Logic (talk) 13:59, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Second Day: Deadlier?

Local Coordination Committees, May 27: By the end of Monday, LCC was able to document 89 martyrs, including 6 women, 6 childern and 6 were martyred by using the Toxic gases ... LCC has documented 306 shelling points,it was the deadiliest in Eastren Ghota in Damascus Suburbs and Qusair in Homs: warplane shelling on 32 points , shelling in explosive barrels in 3 points in Ariha ,Idlib. Qusair ,Homs. Salma in Lattakia. shelling with toxic gases in Harsta Damascus Suburbs for the second day. Rocket shelling was documented in 75 points, shelling with mortar shells was documented in 84 points, artillery shelling was documented in 111 points in the cities and towns in Syria. Indeed, they have the first attack, with no martyrs, on the 26th: "Shelling by chemical bombs was reported in two points in each of Harasta and Bahayeh in Damascus Suburbs." So I guess alleged chemical attacks of May 26/27 is a more accurate title. Close enough. Will update the front page later. --Caustic Logic (talk) 13:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Sources

In Harasta, an eastern Damascus suburb largely under rebel control, dozens of people were afflicted by respiratory difficulties after an apparent overnight chemical attack, according to opposition sources. Video showed victims lying on the floor of a room, breathing from oxygen masks.
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Another video from Harasta overnight showed at least two fighters being put into a van, their eyes watering and struggling to breathe while medics put tubes into their throats.