Poisoning of Sergei Skripal

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Hazmat team in Salisbury near the bench where Sergei Skripal was found unconscious.
Sergei Skripal and daughter Yulia photographed two years ago in the Zizzi restaurant by Yulia's brother Alexandr
Sergei Skripal was recruited by Pablo Miller to spy for the UK. Skripal lived next to Miller in Salisbury. Miller worked for Christopher Steele's company Orbis, in addition to doing part-time work for the UK Foreign Office. It is speculated that Miller was involved in creating the Steele dossier on Trump. If so, it is possible that Skripal was one of the sources.
@FT is trying to convince British public that MI6 agent Skripal actively worked for the Russian intelligence, that’s why he was dangerous for Russia. Little doubt the investigation will be classified.
-- Russian Embassy, UK
How is the poisoning of Sergei Skripal connected to Russiagate?
For further details and discussion, see the talk page. (To see what is hot, see recent changes)

Who is Sergei Skripal?

According to [Vladimir] Timoshkov, his friend [interviewed by the BBC in Russia], who he had known since school, did not see himself as a traitor as he had sworn an oath to the Soviet Union. "Many people shunned him. His classmates felt he had betrayed the Motherland," he said. "In 2012 he called me. We spoke for about half an hour. He called me from London. He denied he was a traitor... (he told me) he wrote to Vladimir Putin asking to be fully pardoned and to be allowed to visit Russia. His mother, brother and other relatives were (in Russia)."

Connection to Pablo Miller and Christopher Steele

Mark Urban

Four months after the incident, BBC reporter Mark Urban informed the public that he had intervieved Skripal several times during the summer of 2017 for a book about Russian Intelligence he was writing. As it turns out, Urban was an officer in the Royal Tank Regiment together with Pablo Miller, Skripals MI6 handler. When Craig Murray asked some straight-forward questions about this to Urban and the BBC, the former didn't answer at all and the latter pointed out that they are not obliged to answer these questions, and made a general statement which contained nothing at all about the connection to Miller, Steele and his dossier Murray had asked about.

Urban's book "THE SKRIPAL FILES - The Life and Near Death of a Russian Spy" is published on October 2, 2018.

Connection to Malta and Cambridge Analytica

See also Cambridge Analytica

Joseph Mifsud - connections?

Dealings after the swap

Respekt: Agent Skripal byl v Praze (in 2012) -Respekt (Czech), translation, 12/13 May, 2018

'Regularly meeting officers at the Russian Embassy'?

  • Vitaly Morozov, who knows Skripal', tells that Skripal' regularly met with officers at the Russian Embassy, finds it very strange; video -MSN, March 8, 2018; text-Mirror, March 7, 2018
    “If you have a military intelligence officer working in the Russian diplomatic service, living after retirement in the UK, working in cyber-security and every month going to the embassy to meet military intelligence officers - for me being political refugee, it is either a certain danger or frankly speaking, I thought that this contact might not be very good for me because it can bring some questions from British officials.” (Noted: detail on meeting officers is unusual and outside a normal conversation; Morozov does not explain how this detail came about; if Skripal' volunteered to provide this detail, it would be quite natural to wish to stay away from such person).
  • Fellow Russian exile claims poisoned spy Sergei Skripal was NOT retired and was still working with military intelligence - Mirror, March 7, 2018
    The Russian Embassy told the programme: “We are not aware of any contacts between Sergei Skripal and any of the Embassy staff. "As we have previously said, Mr Skripal was not on the consular register.” (Noted: whether or not he was on register is irrelevant).
  • Spook Soup - Ronald Thomas West, March 10, 2018
  • Respekt: Skripal was secretly in Prague in 2012 Prague Monitor May 14, 2018

Yulia Skripal

See also Yulia Skripal audio
''I will say that nerve agents work by attaching themselves to a particular enzyme in the body which then stops the nerves from working properly. This results in symptoms such as sickness, hallucinations and confusion. -- Christine Blanschard
  • Statement issued on behalf of Yulia Skripal by the Scotland Yard, April 11, 2018
    Russian consulate in London expressed doubt that the statement is genuinely by Yulia. 'The text is composed to support the British position', and 'to exclude contacts with the outside world'. 'None of quoted in press friends and family confirms contacts with Yulia' (Rus.), (Eng). (Noted: in Russia, important statements by non-officials often appear as videos, in part to be sure that a person quoted indeed said it and is not misquoted or altogether misrepresented).
  • EXC: Yulia Skripal fears she was betrayed by fiancé in poison attack - Daily Mail, April 11, 2018
    Noted: the claim is unsourced. There have been no confirmed contacts of Yulia with the outside world; with the phone call with Victoria Skripal the closest to the confirmed category. But contact with Victoria was not continued.
  • Yulia Skripal Is Plainly Under Duress - Craig Murray, April 11, 2018
    The most probable explanation is that Yulia persuaded somebody else in the hospital to lend her a phone, without British officials realising. That would explain why the first instinct of the British state and its lackey media was to doubt the authenticity of the call. It would explain why she was able to contradict the official narrative on their health, and why she couldn’t get a return call.
  • Yulia makes public statement Telegraph 23, May, 2018 Appears at undisclosed location. Yulia's Hand written statement
    Talking from an undisclosed location in the capital, the Russian appeared to have a scar on her neck, consistent with that of a patient who has had to have a tracheostomy.
    This may be thyroid surgery scar. It is usually wider than tracheostomy scar.
  • Exclusive - Yulia Skripal: Attempted assassination turned my world upside down -Reuters, 23, May, 2018, with video, handwritten text in Eng. and Rus., and photos.
    Skripal spoke in Russian and supplied a statement that she said she had written herself in both Russian and English. She signed both documents after making her statement. She declined to answer questions after speaking to camera.
    Noted: the text and oral statement are very close. When making her statement, there is an impression that it was memorized (or read from teleprompter?) Lots of up and down eye movement. Also noted: no blame for the attack assigned; no indication given of having memory of the attack itself; treatment is described invasive and painful, followed by thanks to the hospital staff; desire to return to Russia stated, followed by rejection of consular assistance, at this time. Physical: scar; hair colored; makeup. --Resup (talk) 18:04, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
    Viktoria Skripal, Russian consulate reaction suggests that the text was first written in English. It is very clear that the text is Western, English in style and presentation, but I am not entirely clear in which order things originated. Noted: Russian text is written faster (less calligraphic), and has the following alterations: I want to help (ie to the father; literally identical to English) is changed to intend to (be) help(ing) (намерена помогать); spoken presentation has 'I want to help' version; after his discharge from the hospital till his full recovery (same as spoken here). Some vocabulary are English calques, 'I want to return to my country ', 'please respect our privacy' , all that thanking-and-striking stuff, 'something I have done regularly in the past' follows info on arrival, etc; but it is unclear how much it deviates in substances from what she was up to say --Resup (talk) 01:18, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
    Russian Embassy response Obviously, Yulia was reading a pre-written text. More than that, judging by quite a few elements, the text was a translation from English and had been initially written by a native English-speaker. The handwritten letters signed by Yulia in Russian and English confirm this impression.
    Craig Murray blog Of the Russian Embassy she said very simply “I am not ready, I do not want their help”. Strangely this is again translated in the Reuters subtitles by the strangulated officialese of “I do not wish to avail myself of their services”, as originally stated in the unnatural Metropolitan Police statement issued on her behalf weeks ago. “I do not wish to avail myself of their services” is simply not a translation of what she says in Russian and totally misses the “I am not ready” opening phrase of that sentence. My conclusion is that Yulia’s statement was written by a British official and then translated to Russian for her to speak, rather than the other way round. Also that rather than translate what she said in Russian themselves for the subtitles, Reuters have subtitled using a British government script they have been given.
    In Russian, she says (literally) ....I am grateful to the Russian Embassy for the help offered, but at this moment I am not ready and do not want to make-use-of (воспользоваться) it --Resup (talk) 09:17, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
    See also: talk
  • BBC clip of statement on Youtube
    Video commentary-RT.
  • Юлия Скрипаль: я надеюсь однажды вернуться в Россию -BBC Russian service, 23 May 2018
  • [1] Afshin Rattansi Twitter
    Skripal statement delivered in an unknown location and only to the Reuters Agency run by https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/about-us/board-of-directors.html … indirectly owned by The Woodbridge Company of Ontario.
  • Эксклюзив «КП»: Виктория Скрипаль рассказала, что в видеообращении сестра произносила не свой текст -Komsomolskaya Pravda, 24 May, 2018
    Victoria Skripal believes that Yulia has read the text during her spoken presentation, based on lots of up and down eye movements, 'a bit low for Yulia' speed, in-one-go uninterrupted delivery, lack of some typical of her 'parasite words'
  • Frank Sellars, The Duran It’s interesting to see Yulia up and about, walking around, with no observable discrepancies in her ability to move and function normally, as well as to pen a statement, which would seem to show that whichever hand she writes with, and therefore may have touched the door knob with, assuming that the toxin was absorbed via the skin, therefore coming into contact with the lethal dose of the novichok class nerve agent, is not suffering serious nerve damage, given the precision and control with which she apparently is able to coordinate.
    “no one speaks for me, or for my father, but ourselves”. In Russian what she said was: “nobody should or can speak for me and my father, except ourselves.” (noted: the difference here appears to do with easiness of flow in Russian)
    In English she was reported as saying: “Finally, I would like to again thank everyone involved in my continued care.” In Russian she said she wanted to thank “all the people who gave me support and help in this difficult period of my life.” In that last sentence Yulia expanded the geography of her gratitude to include British, Russians, and the world of support which her case has generated. (Noted: this may be either easiness of flow or genuinely different. There are words for care different from support, but those words are like nursing or medical care, highlighting her incapacity and not as elegant as support, which has a broader range. It is unclear whom she thanks and whether it involves anybody outside UK; apart from one brief and reserved call to Victoria, there is no other known outside contacts --Resup (talk) 11:27, 28 May 2018 (UTC) )
    Yulia Skripal: (cut) if this is OK for you (cut) at 1:09 of the top video here --Resup (talk) 11:30, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

July, 2018

  • 'A new angle for the Skripal case: Julia was visited by a friend in Britain' -Moslovskii Komsomolets' (a tabloid), 4 July, 2018. A phone call from Yulia to a lady builder Diana repairing her MOscow flat allegedly occurred on 22 May, one day before Reuters published the first ever interview with Yulia. Yulia allegedly told that she is doing fine and will soon return.
  • Victoria Skripal told about well-being of her cousin Julia, telling that judged by the tone she is doing great, and not providing other details at this point -TASS, 4 July, 2018
  • Zakhraova: British special services control Yulia's phone calls -TASS, 5 July, 2018
    Zakharova statement was made in 1TV program 'Let them talk'(Pust govoriat), published online 5 July, 2018 In that program, a short fragment of Yulia's phone call with Victoria was played at around 33:00, with Victoria present. Prior to playback, we are reminded that according to Yulia all her calls are recorded (by the British).
    V: Yulia, we did not want to interfere in anything, me especially, all that I want is that you return home and live your own life
    Y: Nobody is preventing this, you see, I can do it on any day. But now I am busy with my father and recovering myself. That's it. And I do not understand, why all those statements. The statement which I made... not the right tone, memorized-not memorized, why is this any of your business? Nobody prepared anything, of course.
    V: I never told anything bad about you, anywhere and to anyone, about you or the father, let's start with this (=let's not forget this)
    Y:The very fact that it was done publicly spoiled (had a bad impact on) our life here a lot
    V:...and ours, too...
    Y: I cannot now return to Russia because all of that was played out in those stupid talk shows. Why on Earth did you go there? Because you showed up there, I cannot return to Russia, only because of that.
  • Russian Embassy Press Officer’s reply to a media question concerning continuing isolation of Yulia Skripal, 27 July, 2018

Stepan Vikeev

  • Yulia Skripal's mystery partner 'goes into hiding' along with his mother - Daily Mail, April 21, 2018
    (See comment to earlier similar Daily Mail article, April 11, 2018, above). Also, in the Scotland Yard statement, she is quoted saying I have access to friends and family; what's 'access'? 'Access' is not the same as contact. If she does have any actual contacts, why not to say so, explicitly and with details?
  • Stepan Vikeev is a Ph.D in economics, + part-time poet and video gamer. His mother is with a corporate security research and industrial organization 'Institute for modern problems in security' founded by 'Norilsk mining company named after Zevyagin'. Corporate security in general is the lowest in hierarchy and far away from state security or any special tools or substances. Stepan is said to be in the same structure, likely in his economics role. There is a quite notable flow of money through the company, around 2.8 mln USD in receivables yearly, with a comparable amount in expenses. But no evidence of villain use of those moneys, even less of such an exotic villainy. Disliking is one thing, but killing in a manner causing major international crisis is in quite another ballpark.
  • [2] Mr Vikeev has not answered Ms Skripal’s calls since she was discharged from hospital and deleted all his social media accounts after the attack, for which the government has blamed Russia….. Alexander Mercouris The Duran April 24, 2018


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Suspended, as of 8 June, 2018

Boris Karpichkov

  • KGB KILLER Cops identify ‘former KGB assassin ('Gordon'), 54, trained in martial arts and with law degree as prime suspect in Salisbury poisonings’ -The Sun, 21/22 April, 2018
  • The most wanted criminal of Latvia - counterintelligence Boris Karpichkov -kriminal.lv;, 2.8.2010
    By the way, just the other day Karpichkov through the newspaper The Daily Mail accused the special services of the United Kingdom in the death of military expert David Kelly. For reference: David Kelly was engaged in exposing falsifications in the reports of the British government on the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. In July 2003, he was found dead in a forest in Oxfordshire. The investigation concluded that death occurred as a result of suicide. However, Karpichkov is sure that they have got rid of the expert scientist for "reckless behavior." As a source of information about Kelly's murder, the ex-counter-intelligence called his former boss Peter Everett, who led the company Group Global Intelligence Services. In this firm worked former intelligence officers MI-5, who performed detective work on orders of private firms. Everett confirmed that he had met Karpichkov and talked to him about Kelly's death. But he categorically denies the fact that he knew anything about this crime. Currently, the Attorney General of Great Britain is studying the materials sent to him by Karpichkov. Most likely, Karpichkov hopes that with the help of this statement, made on July 25, he will not again be extradited to Latvia.
  • Mirror got 'Gordons censored portrait

Ross Cassidy

Skripal's "best friend" Ross Cassidy "speaks for the first time", to the Daily Mail published on September 9, 2018.

The attack

Witness Freya Church first saw the two people on the bench
CCTV video shows two people walking toward the bench where the Skripals were later found. Who are they? The Skripals or Pablo Miller and an unknown blonde?
Did anyone see Akhmed Zakayev or Vanessa Redgrave in Salisbury on March 4th?
How much cash was in the red bag left at the attack scene? £100,000?
Locations where the Skripals were allegedly seen. The sequence of events is still unknown.
Doctors see no sign of a nerve agent being used.


See some significant early local reports and statements on the emergency services reponse
The body of a young man was found in Salisbury today. The man's body was found hanging from a tree on a footpath near the river Avon between Devizes Road and Stratford-sub-Castle. [...] A police spokesman said: [...] "There are not believed to be any suspicious circumstances in relation to the death. [...] This is not linked to the on-going incident in Salisbury city centre."


According to BBC Youtube clip 18min

  • 10 AM on Monday, 5 March 2018. 'External event', 'multi-agency response' declared. Incident room, clear lines of communication.
  • Tuesday, 6 March 2018. Plc srg Bailey admitted, members of the public started to arrive suspecting 'symptoms'. 'Questions asked, what exactly are we dealing with here?'. Also on Tuesday, ACHE inhibition understood, without details on the nerve agent. District general hospital lab cannot test for the nerve agent, but they tested for 'anticholinesterases levels'. 'Colleagues at Porton Down helped us with the testing' (5:40)
  • After that, 'Military-like operation' started
  • After further tests, Novichok was identified
The real role of Porton Down “international experts” is unclear. One would be interested to know at what stage they became engaged in the clinical care and what specific “best therapies and new approaches to well-known treatments” they suggested. At the same time, we were astonished to hear the medical staff saying that they had not had high hopes of ever having their two patients recover from the nerve agent poisoning and had been “surprised” by the speed of their recovery. This does not fall in line with the statements that Sergei and Yulia Skripal have been saved thanks to the timely “very good generic basic critical care” in the first hours and days after the poisoning.
Moreover, the timeline of the events described by the doctors contradicts the previous media reports that specialists with chemical weapons training “happened to be” on duty at the hospital when Sergei and Yulia Skripal were admitted. There are yet more inconsistencies: although the sites visited by Sergei and Yulia Skripal on 4 March are undergoing a thorough chemical clean-up, there has been no clear explanation as to why decontamination of the hospital never took place.
Concerned people arriving at hospital on the 6th follows reports showing biohazard suited personel examining the scene See Newsnight 5th March
Steven Davies's letter to the times said "Any blood tests performed showed no abnormality". There is a query as to whether this refers to other people assesed and not the three with significant poisoning or is meant tout court. --Diagonal (talk) 17:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC) From context the statement probably applies to other individuals assessed. The esgment on AChE levels raises question as to why a consultant in emergency care at the hospital would write to the Times that 'no patients showed symptoms of nerve agent poisoning' if they had noted AChE inhibition by 6th March --Diagonal (talk) 17:32, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Suspicious people seen

  • Suspicious masked woman spotted - The Daily Mail, March 12, 2018
    The dark-haired woman was spotted wearing a black face mask as she left a Pret a Manger, a three-minute walk from where Sergei Skripal, 66, and his daughter Yulia, 33, were later found convulsing and vomiting. At the time the pair were thought to be in the Mill pub a few yards away... Mr Francis, 50, said: ‘We were in the town centre in Pret a Manger. We were in there at 3.35pm and I was sitting by the door and this lady walked out at 3.40pm.
    ‘She was wearing a Sars mask, a black Sars mask tucked around her chin and a bag in her hand...‘She had dark hair, a single woman, but I didn’t think she was obviously Asian.’
    On Sunday it was reported that a witness told police that an hour before the couple collapsed he saw a ‘man in a mask’ with his hood up acting suspiciously nearby. The witness said: ‘He looked threatening and aggressive and he was walking towards us with purpose. He gave me a stern look as he passed us by about 100 yards from the bench where they found the Russians.’

What is the poison?

The short public version of the OPCW report did not name the chemical structure or name of the "nerve agent" found in the environmental samples. This information was only disclosed to "State Parties".

The OPCW report does say it agrees with Porton Down’s findings on the substance – but Porton Down said it was a Novichok or something else like one Skawkbox 12th April, 2018

Source of poison?

Fast or slow acting?


Moved to Novichok


Early reports that made it to CNN spoke of the opioid Fentanyl as a cause of poisoning. These reports go back to the Salisbury Journal which has reported at least four times that they were told by "emergency services" that this drug could have been involved. A month earlier, the Journal reported about a prominent case of someone selling the substance on the "darkweb" and was send to prison for eight years over it.

A PARAMEDIC who was among the first to respond to Sergei Skripal and his daughter told the Prime Minister they had initially treated the pair for drugs. ... The man, named Ian, said he had been in the first ambulance service response car on the scene. Mrs May asked him: "At that stage you could only treat for what you can see?" Salisbury MP John Glen interjected to say he had heard initial reports the incident was drug-related. To which the paramedic replied: "Absolutely that's what I was treating for, that's what we treated them for initially."
(Noted: paramedic will almost certainly have medical gloves, and likely no mask or respirator. Policeman likely will not have gloves and certainly no mask or respirator. If aerosol was sprayed, paramedic will be poisoned. So looks like skin or food method of delivery --Resup (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC))
Salisbury District Hospital declared a “major incident” on Monday 5 March, after two patients were exposed to an opioid. The fire service was called to decontaminate the hospital’s Accident & Emergency unit, as paramedics treated the casualties. Emergency personnel arrived to the scene, wearing full-body hazardous materials protective and an incident response unit was on site.It followed an incident hours earlier in which a man and a woman were exposed to the drug Fentanyl in the city centre. The opioid is 10,000 times stronger than heroin., Clinical Services Journal 5th March
By now there is a note under the article saying that it was changed on April 26 "to remove suggestion (which was widely speculated and reported at the time of writing) that the substance found was fentanyl." There is a MoA article which narrows the time when this note was added. IIRC it was shortly after the change and before 3 May. --CE (talk) 15:25, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
From the MoA article: All reference to Fentanyl as cause of the Skripal illness in a March 5 article has been removed between April 26 and April 27.


Organophosphate pesticide

See also Talk:Poisoning of Sergei Skripal#Scheduled chemicals

Botulinum toxin

Did this risotto pesce at the Zizzi restaurant cause the poisoning?
See Botulism and Botulinum toxin on Wikipedia.
  • How the 'poisoned' spy plot unfolded in Salisbury - Daily Mail, March 6, 2018
    They ordered from the menu, choosing the 600 calorie risotto pesce with king prawns, mussels and squid rings in a tomato, chilli and white wine sauce. But within minutes Mr Skripal had become angry, a witness said.
    • Symptoms usually appear 12–36 hours after eating, but can also appear within 2 hours to 10 days.
    • Botulinum inhibits the release within the nervous system of acetylcholine (ACh), a neurotransmitter.
    • While nerve agents inhibit the enzyme acetylcholinesterase, which is responsible for the breakdown of acetylcholine (ACh) in the synapse. Muscles are prevented from relaxing and are effectively paralyzed. This includes the heart and the muscles used for breathing. Because of this, the first symptoms usually appear within seconds of exposure.
  • Novichok: Russia's Antidote to Seafood Poisoning - CanSpeccy, April 12, 2018


See Tetrodotoxin on Wikipedia

Israeli mystery opioid


See also OPCW discussion on talk page.
I will now be quoting what they sent to the OPCW in their report. You understand that this is a translation from a foreign language but I will read it in Russian, quote: “Following our analysis, the samples indicate traces of the toxic chemical BZ and its precursor which are second category chemical weapons. BZ is a nerve toxic agent, which temporarily disables a person. The psycho toxic effect is achieved within 30 to 60 minutes after its use and lasts for up to four days. This composition was in operational service in the armies of the US, the UK and other NATO countries. The Soviet Union and Russia neither designed nor stored such chemical agents. Also, the samples indicate the presence of type A-234 nerve agent in its virgin state and also products of its degradation.” End of quote. According to the specialists’ estimates, the significant concentration of A-234 discovered would have inevitably been lethal, and taking into account its high volatility, the fact that the specialists in the city of Spiez found it in its virgin state and also with high purity and in high concentration, appears to be utterly suspicious, because the period which elapsed between the poisoning and sampling was fairly long – I think, over two weeks.
Taking into account that Yulia Skripal and the policeman have already been released from hospital, whereas Sergei Skripal, as the British claim without letting us see either Yulia or Sergei, is still recovering, the clinical pattern corresponds more to the use of a BZ agent. Nothing is said whatsoever about a BZ agent in the final report that the OPCW experts presented to its Executive Council. In this connection we address the OPCW a question about why the information, that I have just read out loud and which reflects the findings of the specialists from the city of Spiez, was withheld altogether in the final document. If the OPCW would reject and deny the very fact that the Spiez laboratory was engaged, it will be very interesting to listen to their explanations.
April 18


See also discussion comments

Location of attack?

Telegraph thinks the novichok may have come in a suitcase from Moscow
ABC News suspects the poison may have been placed in the vents of Scripal's BMW
Daily Star says maybe the poison was released from a mini drone

No one seems to know where, when and how the alleged attack happened. Teresa May claims that the agent has been identified, but the investigators still do not have a sample of the agent. If they had identified the location of the attack or the container used to transport the agent, they would most likely have a sample.

The officer has left hospital on March 22 and went home, according to the Wiltshire police who read a lengthy statement allegedly by Nick Bailey in which he gives no details whatsoever about what happened and asks the press to respect his and his family's privacy. Already while recovering in hospital he has done his best to respond to as many as possible of the 300 supporting messages he got from the general public, the statement reads.

Tracking movement

  • CCTV shows Sergei Skripal drive through Salisbury before poisoning - Daily Mail, March 15, 2018 (timed map inside).
    Police know Sergei Skripal parked on the first floor of Sainsbury's car park at 1.40pm. He and his daughter Yulia visited The Mill pub before arriving at Zizzi at 2.20pm, dining, and leaving at 3.35pm. They were potentially picked up on CCTV on Market Walk at 3.47pm before being found slumped on a bench at 4.15pm. The new footage shows Skripal driving past the Devizes Inn, which is equidistant from Sainsbury's to his home in Christie Miller Road, though it is not known where he had driven from nor when he was poisoned



Police sources say both Skripals turned off their cell phones between their visit to the cemetery at 9:15 and 13:30 in town centre, two hours before they were found on the bench. Police suspects a clandestine meeting. Father Skripal has travelled to Dubai and Africa for "business meetings" while living in the UK, "raising the prospect he was selling information to criminals and foreign powers."

Container for poison?

So far the investigators have no idea how the alleged poison was transported to the supposed site of the poisoning. Speculations range from a suitcase from Moscow to a mini drone.

  • Vil Mirzayanov: "Novichok" can be synthesized or stolen, but few can apply it-BBC Russian, March 16, 2018
    BBC: Есть мужчина и женщина, против которых был направлен точечный маленький снаряд. Как и в чем в этом случае могут содержаться вещества, для того чтобы "Новичок" сработал? Это маленький патрон?
    VM, robot-translated: This is a small cartridge that is inserted - this I already fantasize - into a Nagant, a revolver, it has a device that breaks [the components], and there is a reaction between them. And then it shoots out, as it were, a diluent in the form of gasoline or carbon dioxide, usually from a spray, [in the form of] a spray. On such a principle such a weapon could be made, very simply ... Special precautions are not required, because hermetically enclosed substances, say, in an ampoule, are not dangerous.... You see, the mechanism in this shot device, it is available and from the spring can break both vials, both cartridges. The reaction goes on in seconds. And then it shoots.
    (A spray or dual spray gun? Apparent point is not murder, rather some harm + tainting with the agent. --Resup (talk) 06:12, 19 March 2018 (UTC)).

Door knob?


  • Russian Embassy response We reiterate our demand to the British Government to ensure compliance with their international legal obligations and the universal rules of international relations, and to urgently provide the Russian side and the public with meaningful proof that Sergei and Yulia Skripal are not forcibly isolated.
  • The probe into the Salisbury spy poisoning is now one of the biggest counter-terrorism investigations ever launched in Britain. May 8 Mirror
  • Russian Embassy Response May 8, 2018 According to a Downing Street spokesman, more than 400 police officers including 250 counter-terrorism specialists have been involved in the inquiry, more than 5000 hours of CCTV and more than 1350 pieces of evidence have been collected, and around 500 witnesses have been identified.These impressive figures should not mislead. What they actually mean is that despite huge efforts the police have been unable to support the official political version of the incident with facts and proof. The immense work of the police turns out to be meaningless when they are expected not to establish the truth, but to follow the artificial script written by the Conservative government days after the attack.


  • Ongoing investigation into incident in Salisbury on 4 March -Metropolitan Police, June 05, 2018
    • Today, around 100 counter terrorism officers remain in Salisbury
    • 176 searches have been undertaken
    • more than 900 witness statements have been taken
    • 4,000 hours of CCTV footage have been viewed
    • 14,000 vehicles and 2,500 pedestrians have been assessed and graded according to their significance.
    • Over 2,300 exhibits have been recovered as part of the investigation, of which 851 are stored at the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory because of contamination issues. Detectives have so far carried out 190 examinations at the Porton Down laboratory.
    • House-to-house inquiries have been completed at 379 addresses
  • Freedom of Information Act Request to Wiltshire Police for health and safety documents related to investigation - Request refused
    This is not too surprising, there are exceptions in FOIA, as they say. Allegations were made against Russia and theoretically there may be better chance for info to be released to Russia (but not placed in public domain, for reasons explained in the response). But chances are low, relations bad, it essentially follows Litvinenko track (which I feel is different/does not have to be the same) when investigation details (as opposed to overall report) have not been released, despite Russian officials often complaining. --Resup (talk) 07:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Twitter feed of Cheif Counstable Wilts Police


On March 23 a judgement at the high court ruled that the OPCW is allowed to take blood samples of the ("heavily sedated, unable to communicate") Skripals. The judgement contains the first known direct statement of a(n unnamed) Porton Down analyst:

Blood samples from Sergei Skripal and Yulia Skripal were analysed and the findings indicated exposure to a nerve agent or related compound. The samples tested positive for the presence of a Novichok class nerve agent or closely related agent.

In the ruling it says

The application came before me on 20 March 2018. It was made on an urgent basis. The OPCW wished to collect samples in the near future.

On March 19 the OPCW had been in Salisbury "to take a nerve agent sample" (local paper quoting Boris Johnson).

  • April 4 Update (ACLOS copy): OPCW experts visited the locations where two of the victims were reportedly exposed to a toxic chemical and collected several environmental samples. The team also took biomedical samples from these two victims, as well as from a third individual, a police officer reportedly exposed to a toxic chemical.
  • On April 12th the OPCW released a press statement and a summary report of their findings.
    They say that they "confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people." The identity itself is only mentioned in the classified full report given to the UK and other State parties.
  • On 18th April OPCW denied BZ report (see also talk page). At the meeting, Russia's representative Alexandr Shulgin made a statement accusing the UK of being engaged in constant lying about the case and goes into a detailed refutation of eight British "lies".

Ahmet Uzumcu

He would not confirm whether the UK already had samples of novichoks, which were originally developed by the Soviet Union, but said officials were able to identify the nerve agent used in Salisbury “in a very short space of time”. Mr Üzümcü said that if identification had been slower, the Skripals and Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey – who have all been released from hospital – would not have been effectively treated. “All three main victims have survived and I think this proves the efficiency of British authorities,” he added. He was speaking following meetings with senior British government officials including foreign minister Sir Alan Duncan and defence minister Earl Howe,..

Seymour Hersh?

Legendary journalist Seymour Hersh on the truth behind novichok ... https://www.independent.co.uk/politics/seymour-hersh-interview-novichok-russian-hacking-9-11-nerve-agent-attack-a8459596.html July 27th 2018

I'm about to interview the 81-year-old doyenne of investigative journalism Seymour Hersh. Sy Hersh – as he is affectionately known by those close to him – was ... once described by the Financial Times as “the last great American reporter”. Hersh has brought out his ... Ghraib prison in the Iraq War to the attention of the world. Veteran journalist Seymour Hersh on ... .

Re-telling of the article in Russian does not indicate any insider knowledge, suggests that Skripal likely was talking to services about Russian organized crime ...Sloppiness indicates that organized crime, not state sponsorship may be involved

Noted: The Independent article appears withdrawn/cannot be found --Resup (talk) 10:43, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

There was a part missing in your link (/politics/). Fixed that but the article is indeed gone. But it was still in the google cache so I archived that version here. Layout is a bit messed up but seems to be readable. --CE (talk) 15:13, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Meh, after skimming: What you wrote is the only thing about Novichok in the article. It ends, after Hersh expresses doubt about the official 9/11 CT, with the author pointing out that Hersh isn't a conspiracy theorist because he - unlike the author - buys the JFK magic bullet. Maybe a bit too far out for the average Independent reader, so they gave the order to pull it. ;o) --CE (talk) 15:29, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
The author says the article went up early accidentally and will be republished Wednesday. He already has the usual assorted slime calling him and Hersh conspiracy theorists, while he himself is calling people who wondered where the article went conspiracy theorists.... *rolleyes*. --CE (talk) 20:20, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
The link works again. Can't be bothered to check for any changes. --CE (talk) 12:24, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Russians charged

Moved to Petrov and Boshirov


Videos, including:

DEFRA work on decontaminating hotspots

  • Novichok nerve agent use in Salisbury: UK government response
  • Clean-up work underway in Salisbury in next phase of recovery - Gov.UK, April 17, 2018
    Work to clean each site will involve a process of testing, removal of items which may have been contaminated, chemical cleaning and retesting. Sites will not be released back into use until test results and the work undertaken has been reviewed and approved by the government’s decontamination science assurance group.
    The work, which is expected to take a number of months, is being planned and overseen by Defra based on expert advice from Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl), Public Health England, Department for Health and Social Care, Home Office, and Ministry of Defence (MOD). The clean-up operation will be carried out in partnership with Wiltshire Council with support from the MOD, who are providing specialist teams to carry out work on the sites. Around 190 specialist military personnel from the Army and RAF will support the operation.
  • Russian Embassy Response-April 17th,2018 see also May 25th, 2018

We have carefully studied the DEFRA statement saying that decontamination of the nine allegedly contaminated sites in Salisbury has begun. We could not help but notice that the list of such places had considerably expanded. In addition to the previously mentioned "Zizzi" restaurant, the "Mill" pub, the bench where Sergei and Yulia Skripal were found unconscious and the house of Sergei Skripal now ambulance stations and the house of Sgt Nick Bailey are among them

  • Defra's chief scientific adviser Mr Boyd said: "We have to make an assumption that in certain circumstances there will be relatively high concentrations, probably in very, very specific locations, which could be at levels that could be toxic to individuals." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43833582
  • Salisbury's Bourne Hill offices (the new extension) home to Wiltshire Council services, and the police station, will close to staff and public from Friday 20 April for up to eight weeks as part of the decontamination plans announced yesterday.The decontamination work will focus on two locations in Bourne Hill which were sealed off following the incident on 4 March. These locations; the evidence store and two lockers are potentially contaminated and will require testing and the removal of items and cleaning. Update 20th April on Salisbury Recovery - Withsire Council
Decontamination started at the site on April 24, when the site was released by counter-terror police conducting an investigation into the nerve agent attack on Russian former-spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.Chair of the recovery group Alastair Cunningham said the clean-up process would involve testing the sites for traces of the nerve agent Novichok, and caustic chemical cleaning, before re-testing to determine sites are safe. Salisbury Journal 21 May, 2018

Porton Down

See also Porton Down investigates Syria
"We have not identified the precise source, but we have provided the scientific info to government who have then used a number of other sources to piece together the conclusions you have come to." Sputnik 03 April, 2018

Exercise Toxic Dagger

Putin did it!

The UK Foreign Office blames Russia

... not

Israeli response

Czech Novichok production

  • Czech Military Research Institute director fired over Novichok scandal Dilyana Gaytandzhieva May 15, 2018 In March when Moscow said the Novichok nerve agent allegedly used against the Skripals may have originated in the Czech Republic , Safar confirmed that poisonous substances were produced in the Czech Republic solely for laboratory purposes to test their properties and in a very small amount of some grams only.

Russia's response

  • Update 3 May 2018 We also get the impression that the British government is deliberately destroying the evidence, classifying all remaining materials and making independent investigation impossible. Sergei Skripal’s pets were incinerated without having been tested for exposure to nerve agents. Then a decontamination of the area was announced, which reportedly included destruction of potentially contaminated objects along with Sergei Skripal’s house, the “Mill” pub and the “Zizzi” restaurant.

US response

  • 'Trump Weighs Expulsion of Russian Envoys Over U.K. Attack' -Bloomberg News, March 24, 2018
    (Well, hopefully not, Russia's guilt is at least not established, and likely it is done by enemies of Russia, or enemies of Putin, not by Russia or by Putin. --Resup (talk) 16:38, 24 March 2018 (UTC))
  • Kurt Volker commented on Petrov and Boshirov interview - unn.com.ua, September 15, 2018
    Kurt Volker: I am very glad that Russia has not lost its sense of humor. *: Curious comment, is he saying that Western services know for sure that Petrov and Boshirov are not the real names (for example), or something else which is indisputably false? --Resup (talk) 22:11, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

D Notices

Attack Russia now!

Theresa May accuses Russia
The Anglo-Russian war of 2018
  • UK 'could send more troops and jets to Russia's border' after ex-spy poisoned - Mirror, March 9, 2018
  • Theresa May 'to announce on Monday' what sanctions she will take against Russia - The Telegraph, March 9, 2018
    The Prime Minister is expecting to receive confirmation from the Ministry of Defence’s Porton Down laboratory over the weekend that Russia was, beyond reasonable doubt, the source of the nerve agent used in the attempted murder of former double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.
    ...last Sunday’s attack, which also left Det Serg Nick Bailey in hospital after he visited Mr Skripal’s house.
    Noted: (1) for the 'beyond doubt', they need to have a matching sample's 'signature' from a Russian stockpile, and that's not likely; (2) for 'expecting to receive', it needs to be received (draft form/summary/etc.) (3)the article is written by political editors, and placed in politics section--Resup (talk)19:46, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Theresa May threatens military and economic retaliation against Russia if Vladimir Putin is proven to be behind poisoned spy attack - The Sun, March 10, 2018
    Military scientists at Porton Down expect to be able to soon say beyond any doubt that the rare poison was devised in the SVR Russian foreign spy service’s notorious Yasenevo labs in Moscow.
    One senior minister told The Sun: “We are in a new Cold War with Russia that is beginning to get hot. “This is all about debilitating the West, so we have to reverse the psychology and make Putin look weak.”
    Noted: all info on Yasenevo is from Soviet era, with information leaked to the West following USSR collapse. Nobody has a real clue what's going on there now. How and why one can predict what a truly scientific investigation unbiased by politics will show, before it is completed? How can they determine it is Russian chemicals, and not say Ukrainian, Western, or Middle Eastern, without (most likely) having Russian and others' samples? Even if the report does show what's predicted, it should be open to scientific scrutiny (as opposed to politically driven propaganda in media, forcing hand of the government)--Resup (talk) 06:21, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Australia, Poland and Japan could join England in World Cup boycott - Daily Mail, March 10, 2018
    Mr Tugendhat said ministers should urge allies to join a coordinated boycott of the World Cup, as part of a wider package of reprisals against the Putin regime.
  • Мэй обвинила Россию в причастности к отравлению экс-полковника ГРУ Скрипаля и его дочери - TASS, March 12, 2018
    "Today the Foreign Minister [of the United Kingdom, Boris Johnson] called the Russian ambassador and demanded from him that Russia provide a full report and a full disclosure of the program of nerve agents "Novice" (=???) to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, "said May," He also asked for an answer until the end of tomorrow. "
  • Russian spy: Highly likely Moscow behind attack, says Theresa May - BBC, March 12, 2018
    "Should there be no credible response, we will conclude that this action amounts to an unlawful use of force by the Russian state against the United Kingdom."
    Mrs May told MPs the positive identification of this chemical agent (Novichok/Novice) was made by experts at the UK's Porton Down laboratory. She said Russia has previously produced the agent and would still be capable of doing so.
  • MPs call for Kremlin-funded Russia Today to be taken off air - Daily Mail, March 12, 2018
  • Tillerson: Ex-spy's poisoning 'clearly came from Russia - The Hill, March 12, 2018
    “From Ukraine to Syria — and now the United Kingdom — Russia continues to be an irresponsible force of instability in the world, acting with open disregard for the sovereignty of other states and the life of their citizens,” Tillerson said.
  • Rex Tillerson says Russia is 'clearly' behind spy poisoning and 'must face serious consequences' - Evening Standard, March 12, 2018
  • Ex-spy Skripal poisoning 'clearly came from Russia' & 'will trigger response' – Tillerson - RT, March 12, 2018
  • 13 March, 2018. RAF ZH106 (aka Magic81, an AWACS; video of) is reported over Poland, said to be rare. US AF RQ-4 over Ukraine (said to be not rare).
  • Russian spy: UK government response going to plan so far - John Pienaar, BBC News, March 16, 2018
    Among senior ministers and officials, there's quiet satisfaction that the Russia crisis seems to be going according to plan. Maybe even better. According to one senior government source, "it's gone at least as well as we'd hoped".
  • U.S. says to impose new sanctions on Russia for nerve attack in UK -Reuters, August 8, 2018
    TASS quoting ' a high ranking State Dept representative, in robot translation to English: "We intend to impose sanctions on the Russian Federation in a number of areas, the most significant of which is the presumption of refusal concerning the supply [to Moscow] of all sensitive goods and technologies of national security that is controlled by the US Department of Commerce in accordance with the export control rules. At the present time, the issuance of licenses for the supply of these goods is considered in each individual case, and now, after the entry into force of sanctions, we will proceed from the (assumption of) refusal of permission of such supplies".
    (Noted: this will further poison relations; perhaps create nuisances in some areas, but less so then in Soviet days; will boost Russian double use and military R&D. --Resup (talk) 23:37, 8 August 2018 (UTC) )
  • New “draconian” sanctions against Russia-Russian Embassy, USA, August 8, 2018
    The American side refused to answer our follow-up questions, claiming that the information is classified. However, we were told that the US has enough intel to conclude that «Russia is to blame”... We confirmed that we continue to strongly stand for an open and transparent investigation of the crime committed in Salisbury and for bringing the culprits to justice. We suggested publishing our correspondence on this issue. No answer has followed so far.

Syria connection

Charles Shoebridge believes that British MI6 knew of the false-flag Douma gas attack before it happened
Donbass did Skripal?
See also U.S. missile strike on Syria (2018)‎


Julian Röpke believes not

WGSPM: prior briefing notes: http://syriapropagandamedia.org/working-papers/doubts-about-novichoks http://syriapropagandamedia.org/working-papers/update-to-briefing-note-doubts-about-novichoks

Sergei Skripal’s home and a house belonging to a police officer poisoned in the Salisbury nerve agent attack will be bought by taxpayers in a £1m deal that also includes cars and other family possessions. [...] officials said Skripal’s home is expected to be bought by the government for about £350,000. Wiltshire police are expected to pay Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, who became ill after he went to the aid of the Skripals on March 4, for his family home. The house is likely to cost about £430,000.
-> June 28, Russian UK Embassy asks for clarification

Amesbury incident

Nina Ricci's "Premier Jour" perfume bottle found by Charlie Rowley in a charity bin in Salisbury on June 27
See also Talk

The incident did not happen in Amesbury, but in Queen Elisabeth Park in Salisbury, the same place where the Skripals were seen feeding ducks with novichok.

According to BBC they visited the QE gardens on the 29th and were taken ill at Rowleys property on 30th June --Diagonal (talk) 14:45, 14 July 2018 (UTC)


Caroline, a steward with security clearance who works at the RAF base Boscombe Down near Salisbury, is the main carer for Dawn's 10-year-old daughter Grace...Dawn's two sons, Aidan, 23, and Ewan, 19, live with their father Andrew Hope, 46, a enior systems engineer also with high-level security clearance who works at Boscombe Down.
If you visited any of the locations identified by police you should: wash the clothing that you were wearing in an ordinary washing machine using your regular detergent at the temperature recommended for the clothing Amesbury incident advice wipe personal items such as phones, handbags and other electronic items with cleansing or baby wipes and dispose of the wipes in the bin (ordinary domestic waste disposal) if your items are dry-clean only, you should keep them double-bagged and securely fastened. Further details will follow none of these actions should damage your washing machine other items such as jewellery and spectacles that cannot go in the washing machine or be cleaned with baby wipes should be hand washed with warm water and detergent and then rinsed with clean cold water please thoroughly wash your hands with soap and water after cleaning any items you do not need to seek advice from a health professional unless you are experiencing symptoms