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Ah! I noticed this sign in the BBC video and tried in vain to see if I could get a name for this (performer?). It's not clear why anyone but white power / "Ukrainian Nationalist" types would decide to assassinate this person symbolically with three head shots. This image helps a bit, with more letters visible. It doesn't really matter, I suppose. this video at the beginning. It looked to me like the guide pointing it out smirks a bit with amusement. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:26, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

All that's missing in the video are the very first letters. It's Andru Donalds. Never heard of him but wikipedia says that he is working together with *shudders* Enigma (also visible on the poster), which gives us a motive for the assault unconnected to any form of racism. ;oP --CE (talk) 10:24, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Interesting, I didn't try real hard I guess. Jamaican actually. Enigma, lol. Was working with them, it says until 2009. Maybe they revived that? Anyway, there's a time there for the obviously-cancelled show, so he's not totally free, but maybe he'll want some kind of revenge that can be used to spread awareness of WTF is going on in Ukraine, or something. --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:05, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Listen up:
LOL, what a tool. Nice nails there. Doesn't seem like he's aware that he was "shot at". Wanna clue him in, here is his facebook page. Seems he was touring all the way east to Wladiwostok and is now in Germany where he had some livestreaming thing two days ago. Oh, "Mishale", yes, I remember that one. "Sunshine Reggae" at its cheesiest. --CE (talk) 11:21, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
I see he was made aware of it in the comments here which feature a picture of the "backside of your eye". Bullet went straight through. --CE (talk) 11:31, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Mishale never got airplay over here, I guess. Sounds utterly unfamiliar. I like the guy okay, he reminds me of Terrence Trent D'Arby. I have a soft spot still for Enigma also (and Enya for that matter!). Seeing that neo-Nazis hate him doesn't hurt that. --Caustic Logic (talk) 04:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Direction of shots?

The back side of the eye shot. A view through the bullet hole would show the snipers nest. (Is that a reflection of Hotel Ukraine we see in the photo?)

I was expecting someone to spot the sign on video; evidently CE has done so already! Where is it? Where are the shots coming from? -- Petri Krohn (talk) 12:29, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I suspect there are more than one. It's not clear from the BBC video where they are, but likely closer to the Maidan than the one I just spotted in a different video (see also over here). That one must be approx. here. --CE (talk) 12:44, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Good catch, that looks indeed like a reflection of Hotel Ukraine. Which could roughly fit if it is the Dru I spotted. Are we sure that's the exit side? I guess we are. Which could mean the shooters are at one of the positions seen in the minute starting here trying to shoot over and up to the Hotel Ukraine or the high building at the Metro station. Maybe they tried to destroy Dru to get a free firing line? --CE (talk) 18:20, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

The bullet holes are seen on the splash screen on this BBC video. (View video to end and wait.) The sun is shining from behind, from the left meaning this would be on Instytutska facing the police barricade. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 20:39, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

You just made me waste time by watching it to the end and having to stomach Klitschko. I'd say the question here is if what we see to the right of Dru in the background behind the trees, during the first seconds of the video, is the October Palace. If so, we have the place. --CE (talk) 20:51, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


Man you guys are sharp. I wish I could verify this is "the backside of your eye," (speaking to whom?) but okay. Same sign seen at that barricade, not clear from that if it's the same one (even if we could see it - the holes may not be there yet). But on this backside, that is the hotel's shape reflected, and that does look about like the October Palace south end by color and shape. So yeah ... this actually might show there were white supremacists firing from that police barricade, even though police were also seen shooting from it. It might be from the 21st or later for all we know ATM, but ... The proximity clarifies these were no misses while shooting at freedom people. Not three fatal headshots on a sign just a few meters ahead of them. Very cool. --Caustic Logic (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
"The backside of your eye" speaking to Andru Donalds at facebook like I told you above. Petri got us the image from the comment dated April 1. --CE (talk) 00:16, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Seeing that now. Been a slow-start day over here. --Caustic Logic (talk) 04:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC)