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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRR1ftLt2RM

Related videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5XCDvxhDHE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwGoWoA9q4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n97uMNpvqtc

Discussion

Sasa Wawa discussed impact sites here, including as impact 3 (of only 3) a scene that's now hard to piece together. A pulled video of at least 1 minutes, 40 seconds, with no still shots, is cited, saying investigators are inside a struck building, examining an impact on the north wall, with "no signs of an angled impact." Then, in another video (also pulled but with a still, and here's a good copy of that video), he says "the team is seen exiting the building from the other side." How sure it is to be the same building, I don't know. He decides this was a site visited around 1:35 pm on the 29th, using external sun on a balcony to the north to say the stricken wall must be the north one.

I suppose this is the scene referred to, but can't be sure it all connects. No direct sunlight tries to come in either window, suggesting anyway that neither wall faces south. It seems that outside the wall is a balcony the projectile flew across before hitting the wall. No balcony/railing damage that I noticed. One video allows for a slight view of windows across the way, and the start of a possible balcony. If we could match this all up, regardless of area, we could estimate the building orientation by comparing the 1:35pm azimuth, estimate any slight angle evident in the damage, and set a more exact firing direction than "north." Even without being sure, I could try that as a provisional angle. --Caustic Logic (talk) 07:32, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

At the start of the video is a view the other way down the street - that view clarifies this is the same alley they're driving away from the scene in in this other video. They must be moving at least partly north, as satellite dishes point somewhat away (and somewhat towards in the other view). But if it's 1:35 pm, an hour past solar noon, the south end must point more southwest, or even closer to west. The exact angle of light up the street is unclear, seems more across the street than up it. What wall does SW mean in relation to the side they exit? Is it the one to the right of that, or the one opposite? The right wall would face roughly northeast, which would mean a new firing direction. The opposite wall could best be called northwest, which fits the (two) established trajectories, and makes even more sense than just north. --Caustic Logic (talk) 07:32, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Other

More road movies, exact relation uncertain 1(driving to site 2?), 2, 3 --Resup (talk) 14:38, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Video 2 is new to me, shows the same scene as they arrive, at 0:45, but no inside view. #3 also adds a few snippets of this scene. I got a big list of videos, and you managed 2/3 I didn't see. Here's a big list of mostly unrelated scenes, still available the other day, for whatever purpose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTXtjVOAnIA shows the same scene as they leave, some views up the street to help place it (not much hope of placing it though, seems to match no spots indicated by HRW) --Caustic Logic (talk) 01:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

dud impact footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaY_vySvq6w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfk5Y5CoM88

SasaWawa north scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KYSCRBqa9A

same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AcdS4FmRyQ&index=12&list=PLO_vQ_Y4lJ5AEko1PAuDDRt2-m4_1Y82u

driving from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcA_dnjCzWo

exiting a building https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_RmSXft3E

interviewing people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYopg-9C_6E

same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3pnDnuQ5Io

leaving a spot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTXtjVOAnIA

leaving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVou_AV25Bc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGMBVWB0xo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcA_dnjCzWo coordinating committees via Wall Street Journal

indoors scene, good quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5XCDvxhDHE Syria Al Ghouta Al Sharqiyah (east)

Majles Rif, same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRR1ftLt2RM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwGoWoA9q4o&index=8&list=PLO_vQ_Y4lJ5AEko1PAuDDRt2-m4_1Y82u

same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n97uMNpvqtc

same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwGoWoA9q4o&index=8&list=PLO_vQ_Y4lJ5AEko1PAuDDRt2-m4_1Y82u

just driving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLcCj_w2lbo

medic lady talking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3oHdihKyWY&index=3&list=PLO_vQ_Y4lJ5AEko1PAuDDRt2-m4_1Y82u

arriving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY6VVKAh4B8&list=PLO_vQ_Y4lJ5AEko1PAuDDRt2-m4_1Y82u&index=4

continued https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8XTCV8zNGA&index=5&list=PLO_vQ_Y4lJ5AEko1PAuDDRt2-m4_1Y82u

parked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGMBVWB0xo&list=PLO_vQ_Y4lJ5AEko1PAuDDRt2-m4_1Y82u&index=6

FSA, leaving bldg (see WSJ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9hboFKAfP4&list=PLO_vQ_Y4lJ5AEko1PAuDDRt2-m4_1Y82u&index=7

inspecting impact in the street? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WydbuJ9qPn0 decontamination? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXOjyunoYw4&index=11&list=PLO_vQ_Y4lJ5AEko1PAuDDRt2-m4_1Y82u meeting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Molztr3I_FM parked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYuHAsoaAT4 parked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMoVsNQU7RI

Moadamiya vids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvoNWNCs-hI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgNUh2XMyTU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfgjuu23EmU Aug 26, restless legs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHCMTBCLo8k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_kTgKi8OqI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_3nODb5UEs

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