Talk:Hezbollah

Al-Qusayr?
Where is the proof that Hezbollah is fighting in Al-Qusayr? Is this only based on rebel claims? How do the rebels know whom they have killed? Do they have the bodies? ...and ID cards?

Does Hezbollah officially admit that it is involved in Al-Qusayr? Do they list their martyrs? To me the whole story sounds like FSA propaganda. Yet it is repeated all over the Western media. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 19:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Here is something, originally from the New York Times. But still no proof that the "rebel attack" happened in Syria or in Qusayr. This could just as well have been in Lebanon. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 20:15, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, the original story in the New York Times has more detail.
 * Quote:In the northern city of Tripoli, which supplies Sunni fighters to rebel ranks, three Lebanese soldiers were killed Monday in clashes with rebels.
 * All this could still be happening inside Lebanon. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 20:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Here is a better source, on Jihadology, citing Hezbollah sources. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 20:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Sy Per says, on the NDF militias:
 * Also, volunteers started coming in from Lebanon - which is one explanation for the FSA canard about Hizbollah joining the fighting. --Caustic Logic (talk) 21:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hezbollah would still say they died performing their "jihadist duties". -- Petri Krohn (talk) 23:18, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

More from SyrPer today:
 * The big issue today is not so much the defeat of the rats in Al-Qusayr, but the participation of Hizbollah in the fighting. Some reports give the number of dead Hizbollah fighters at 17 and some at 28.  The real fact is that the "Rat Opposition" view any Southern Lebanese-accented person as a member of Hizbollah.  We must remember that our National Defense Forces were cobbled together from Syrian, Lebanese, Iraqi and Palestinian volunteers.  Many of the fighters inside Al-Qusayr are of Lebanese stock:  some are members of the NDF, some members of the Ba'ath Party and some who are long-time residents in Syria who belong to a militia sanctioned by the government.  Don't believe all the nonsense about Hizbollah.
 * There is an effort under way to denigrate the quality and effectiveness of our army. This is being done by attributing recent successes to Russian advisers or even Hizbollah officers. Pure poppycock unworthy of another sentence.
 * Hizbollah forces are in Syria. Neither Wael nor Monzer will hazard a guess as to how many for the reason that that is classified.  We do know that most are stationed in villages like Al-Dumayna, Al-Ghassaaniyya and others which were just recently decontaminated.  Their job is to protect the returning villagers and to prevent efforts by the rats in Lebanon to send in either reinforcements or supplies.  They have done an excellent job.

Of course, it has since been generally accepted that Hezbollah has been advising and fighting in Qusayr especiall, then in Aleppo, and likely in other places. It should be noted that despite fears of a sectarian massacre when they helped overrun Quseir, it appears no such thing happened. --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Adam's Thoughts
I should weigh in here, but I'm not following it closely or the best informed. I gather Hezbollah sources are acknowledging funerals, AFIK not specified where they were fighting. One task given them, Ziad says, is to stop the Sunni fanatics from crossing over to attack Shi'ites. And who could argue with that? Hardly anyone denies there is some Hezbollah in Syria, some Lebanese in Qusayr, and it seems quite possible there are some Hezbollah there. WTF? Jordan and Turkey and Lebanese (and Iraqi?) city council militias have been letting in Hamas, MB, Al Qaeda, etc. for two years. I don't give a fuck if Russians and Iranian Republican Guards are helping. Order must be re-imposed ASAP. Bleeding like this kills in time. I'm glad that kind of help is not needed, or hope it's not. It really has dragged on, and we know why. Hint: it's a conspiracy, just not a very secret one. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:09, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Fighting in Lebanon
Syrian rebels fighting against the Lebanese army and Hezbollah in Lebanon. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 11:46, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Syrian, 2 Lebanese Charged with Deadly Assault on Army – Naharnet, May 5, 2013
 * Syrian Air Raid Targets Arsal, Suleiman Urges Respect of Lebanon's Sovereignty – Naharnet, May 5, 2013

Terrorism in Lebanon
Radical Sunnis have responded to Hezbollah involvement with various forms of terrorism against supportive Shia communities in Lebanon. Rockets have been fired from inside Syria on several occasions with some civilian deaths and injuries, and there have been car bombings with deadlier impact. NYT July 9: Car Bombing Injures Dozens in Hezbollah Section of Beirut
 * The blast, in the Bir al-Abed district, injured 53 people, Lebanese officials said. No one was killed, though the parking lot was near a supermarket where people were shopping for food to break one of the first fasts of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

Sunni opposition leader Saad Hariri blamed Shabiha Israel as the German Algemeiner reports, hinting that Hezbollah's lack of vigilance was also suspect: “[The blast] requires the highest level of awareness and vigilance in the face of dangers that surround the country and the entire region, especially while facing attempts by the Israeli enemy to push [Lebanon] to strife by organizing terrorist attacks, as happened today,” he said of the attack clearly done by radical Sunnis. This terrorist response to Hezbollah's involvement in Syria "should shock Lebanese “to go back to the national consensus on keeping Lebanon away from external conflicts and to avoid slipping into wars that will only inflict further divisions in the country, place national stability at risk and expose Lebanon to the conspiracies of the Israeli enemy.”" Translated as meant to be read: More "Israeli" terrorism against your civilians will occur if you continue fighting against our Sunni fighters and terrorists in Syria. Don't give into the "Israeli" ploy by standing firm and fighting back - just quit Syria like the bombers said. Or might have, if they were Sunnis extremsits. --Caustic Logic (talk) 08:07, 19 August 2013 (UTC) On August 15, "Israel" struck again in Beirut and it was deadly, the most so since 1985. Hitting the Shia district of Rweiss, initial reports said as few as 14 people were killed, quickly rising into the 20+ range. France 24 reportson the 17th an adjusted toll of 27 dead, 336 wounded. Dozens of those will be maimed badly. Resisting this terrorist response to their resistance against terrorism in Syria, Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrallah vowed they would redouble their efforts.
 * Defiant Hezbollah leader says ready to fight in Syria himself Reuters via Jerusalem Post, Aug. 16. Nasrallah says:
 * "It is most likely that a takfiri group was responsible for yesterday's explosion," Nasrallah said, referring to radical Sunni Muslim factions linked to al-Qaida, many of whom are fighting with Syrian rebels against President Bashar Assad.
 * "If you think by killing our women and children ... and destroying our neighborhoods, we would retreat from the position we took (in Syria) you are wrong," he said in a combative speech broadcast by videolink from a secret location to his supporters. "If we had 100 fighters in Syria, now they will be 200. If we had 1,000, they will be 2,000. If we had 5,000 they will be 10,000. If the battle with these takfiri terrorists requires that I and all Hezbollah should go to Syria, we will go."--Caustic Logic (talk) 08:07, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Saad Hariri this time blamed Hezbollah and, to a lesser extent, the presumed Sunni extremists responsible.
 * Ryan Lucas, Associated Press, Aug. 17: SUNNI LEADER: HEZBOLLAH DRAGGING LEBANON INTO WAR
 * Hariri responded Saturday, saying Nasrallah's address "did not break the cycle of tension" in the country but rather "drags Lebanon further into the Syrian fire, and it is a pity to squander the blood of Lebanese in such a way." In comments posted on his Twitter account and confirmed by his office, Hariri also said that Thursday's bombing, which killed nearly two dozen people in the Hezbollah stronghold of Rweiss, was "surely an ugly crime, but Hezbollah's war in Syria is a crime as well."

His equation of the two crimes shows that he knows the linkage - the bombing was to punish Shia communities for supporting Hezbollah and its involvement in Syria. Lebanese Sunni extremists have been going to Syria to help the multinational forces use terrorist bombings, false flag massacres, and other combinations of brutality and deception to bleed Syria and its people. Now that Hezbollah has followed those other Lebanese across the border, and has been effective at thwarting that with embarrassing professionalism and lack of brutality, the Sunni extremists feel compelled to punish civilians this way. It's criminal, but understandable, and Hezbollah's fault. They started it, in 2013, not any of the Sunni Lebanese in Syria in the two years prior to that. His hypocritical double-standard is plain to see. --Caustic Logic (talk) 08:07, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

And there was another one planned to punish Nasrallah's supporters yet more. Reuters reported, August 18 Lebanon seizes explosive-laden car, arrests four:
 * Lebanese security forces seized a car loaded with explosives and arrested four men suspected of preparing bombs, days after a deadly bombing in southern Beirut, security sources said on Sunday. The car was discovered on Saturday about 15 km (10 miles) south of the capital in Naameh, laden with five containers of TNT as well as nitroglycerin, they said. The four men were being held on suspicion of preparing explosives for possible use in car bombings, but were not believed to be connected to Saturday's discovery or to the car bomb that killed 27 people three days ago, the sources said.
 * On Sunday four rockets were fired from Syrian territory towards the Shi'ite town of Hermel in the Bekaa Valley, security sources said. The rockets landed near to the town but there were no reports of casualties, they said.
 * Security forces at checkpoints on the main coastal road to Beirut from southern Lebanon were stopping and searching vehicles on Sunday, drivers said. --Caustic Logic (talk) 08:07, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Security forces at checkpoints on the main coastal road to Beirut from southern Lebanon were stopping and searching vehicles on Sunday, drivers said. --Caustic Logic (talk) 08:07, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Aleppo

 * Shiite Enclaves North of Aleppo Becoming Staging Grounds for Hezbollah’s Next Offensive – Nicholas A. Heras, Jamestown (Terrorism Monitor Volume: 11 Issue: 13)