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Syria Relief Posting
WTF? I thought this must be a joke. Appears Oct. 20, right after I added the Nott claims and the Misrata fake x-ray predecent here (see here). Best guess at first: someone followed up on that based on this page, and no one really claimed that. But a Telegraph report is cited, citing the Times and a different Nott interview, and the story ... in the Google search, that picture was attached. Here there's a video I can't get to load. Okay, text says:
 * Pictures showing an x-ray purportedly of a foetus with a bullet lodged in its skull were provided by charity Syria Relief. Their authenticity could not be verified and the skull in the image showed no sign of damage from a high velocity bullet.

Read properly, even they can barely avoid calling it blatantly fake. It was provided on the side, Nott does not say there he endorses it. Who would? Here's their source given: Heart-Breaking Images Provided By Syria Relief Media Team To Major UK Newspaper Heart-breaking, side-slitting, let's not go hair-splitting. They endorse it, and kudos to them for helping bring off this propaganda/prank. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

They explain it so:
 * The Time [sic] Newspaper is publishing on tomorrow’s front page a heart-breaking image of a fetus killed before it was born by a sniper. The photo was provided by Syria Relief Media Team inside Syria.  Other major newspapers are also picking up on the story.
 * The images were taken by our Media Time [sic] recently, and show a sniper bullet lodged in the brain of an unborn baby.
 * The baby’s mother received severe abdominal wounds, and sadly passed away as well.
 * (did they believe they were speaking to Time magazine?) --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

This did come up right on October 19, so (depending) either they copied me quick or I'm just tracing the right things at the right time. That's of course in reference to this section of the Snipers page and how it lines up with the below section with this image. And thanks for it, Petri. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

I notice at their posting, zero comments. I highly suspet they aren't approving any. I won't even try to mess it up. Not right there anyway. Saw yours on Twitter, I'll call us covered and skip the chatting for now. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Deeper Source?
The image is stamped ACMC. What is ACMC? Aleppo? City? Medical/media? Center, I guess. Petri, you might know this. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * But I won't even give you time to prove it. ACMC on Facebook, Jan 6, 2013: Introduction of Aleppo City Medical Council --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:40, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm just noticing the date of incident, August 23 implied, not "the other day." Will follow up on this. If it lines up with what Nott says, there should be two that day. Or else it's the day with five, or another day yet. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh my ... don't click lightly, but we have a visible light rendition too of the same baby, delievered dead with placenta and head issues someone should asses, not clearly actually shot. Anyway, the CDV has it, both images together to clarify, here, this fetus named Abdulraaouf Mohammad Mezmar, by ... his dead mother who died? "He is a fetus 8 months old, martyred by regime forces sniper;s shot," from Bustan el-Qassr, Aleppo, martyrdom location blank, killed August 24. (yesterday somewhere, considering time zones). At 8 months, a decided name could well be known. --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:40, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

All 6 adult females from Aleppo killed August 23-25 (allowing day each way for different scenarios): three victims of a murky massacre in Juneid (not the first), two killed by shelling, and only one by sniper: Mayyada Khouraqee, 52, from Sukkari neighborhood, killed wherever on August 24 "by regime forces sniper's shot in the chest." By this, I guess Abdulraaouf's mother lived, and someone screwed up the "game" that day. Did the one sniper aim too low, or did the other one aim too high? --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:40, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Date of CDV posting: August 25. I checked entry sequence - the one after (92993) is dated Aug 25, the one before (92991) is the sniper-shot woman who can hardly be his mother, also dated Aug 24, but before that (92990) is another person who died Aug.25. So it took a little bit to gather and report this data, with those two alone added late and together, at least there. So it didn't just now appear, although it was just now boosted to the world stage from its previously obscure failure. --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:49, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Pitfalls
While I appreciate it, this is in my opinion a dangerous propaganda/prank for at least two reasons. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) This will let some simply laugh off the claims that might really testify to a real crime spree that shoul be investigated and prosecuted as if it mattered. We have word that at least eight pregnant women in (Aleppo?) have been shot through the fetus. No matter how fake this x-ray thing is, it cannot erase a true fact like this may be. And we also hear of enough people being shot that on multiple days patterns could be discerned like that. That means quite a number of people horribly wounded and sometimes killed, including children disproportionately. It does sound like a game, any kind of variation of the finer points of target practice will constitute that. The motive, depending, would be for cigarettes and the glory of Bashar, or maybe to make sure the good doctor saw the proof, heard that story, and unapologetically slapped them together under his credibility umbrella for global consumption. The dupes need sorted from the criminals and the crimes exposed. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) Most normal people can see it's fake, but less scientific and rational folk (including Sunni extremists with guns inside Syria) can't tell or don't care. They'll see a Satanic plot to shoot baby Sunnis, they're sure, and they will for real put a bullet into any swollen Alawi womb they happen to see. That and cutting them open is something they've been doing already, but  it doesn't help to give them anything they think can be an excuse or pretense. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * And also, as I say, the actual crime might well not be fake. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)