Talk:Operation Peace Spring

13 Oct.' 19. Russian opolchenie sources discuss (unconfirmed) reports on a Russian no-fly zone in the North, the serious fighting capability of SAA dependency on foreign fighters such as Russian PMC---and recall the several hundreds PMCs killed in American airstrike brought about by the Kurds ...--Resup (talk) 23:24, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


 * These "Strelkov people" really love war, don't they? Nah, I predict once the SAA takes over the border, Turkey will stop the operation as the pretext is gone. There will be no confrontation between Syrian and Turkish armies, just some proxy "rebel" clowns will be abandoned and get hurt. All in all stunning developments. One could even theorize about a Trump-Putin-Erdogan-Assad conspiracy to get the stubborn Kurds to come home... --CE (talk) 23:46, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Actually, they do not like this particular war. No fighting with the Turks, as the reason is gone, is present in comments there. But the main line really is insufficient strength, or reason to be there, of their leadership's expedition. The reality in this instance is that Erdogan is in contact with Putin and not on the collision course in that; so basically they are mistaken in this particular instance (however, the exact comment is not about now, it is about '1-2-3 years' from now, which is not settled...E.g. this "Turkey’s Syrian National Army", once it is set, it ought to be doing something, or else it may harass its owner...) --Resup (talk) 00:51, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Minimal price met? A telegram channel with (unconfirmed) report that al-Omar oil field and Conoco plant on the eastern bank off Del-iz-Zor is coming under Syrian government control. This is the area where those Russian PMC were attacked. Though unconfirmed, this seems to be the 'minimal price' so that various mil/ex-mil Russians are not up against this or each other here. (However there are more stories like this claiming various areas control, including the same channel, most likely not all true...) --Resup (talk) 08:38, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * NYT, 20 Oct. 2019: Trump is leaning in favor of a new Pentagon plan to keep a small contingent of American troops in eastern Syria, perhaps numbering about 200, to combat the Islamic State and block the advance of Syrian government and Russian forces into the region’s coveted oil fields, a senior administration official said... --Resup (talk) 05:23, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Trump, Esper: US may keep some troops in Syria to guard oilfields. 'Guarding from IS' seems bogus, either Kurds or Assad would do it too, and better then a few special operation soldiers. Putting a stick in the Putin-Assad (aka Russia-Syria) wheel, plus domestic considerations like placating hawkish Republican senators seems more like it. Commercially, this does not look viable, Kurds or their Western backer will not be able to export the oil, with Assad or the Turks all around. So seems to be domestic + geo politics, and does not seem likely to last for very long --08:20, 22 October 2019 (UTC)


 * btw, the reason why there's no loyalist map from today in the article is that they didn't produce one... --CE (talk) 23:51, 13 October 2019 (UTC)