Crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17

Timing

 * MH17 Crash time is 16:20, local time (13:20 UTC, 17:20 Moscow time, 09:20 EST). Moscow time is 1 hour ahead of the local time. Burning wreckage video.
 * Ukrainian SU 25 shot down. Another SU 25 damaged. Conflicting dating (16 or 17 of July). Footage of shooting may appear in Odessa 1 TV  footage, 17 July.
 * 17 July, afternoon, 12:00 EST, 20:00 Moscow President Obama speaks with President Proshenko.
 * 20:30 Moscow time, Kremlin "The Russian leader informed the US President on  the report of (Russian) air traffic control services (received right before the telephone conversation) about the crash of the Malaysian plane".
 * 21:03 Moscow time. Channel 1, Russia. Opolchenie version that an Ukrainian military plane shot Boeing is reported. First eyewitnesses telling about military  planes  appear in 22:45  Channel 1 news report (Moscow time)
 * Buk version
 * Ukrainian Buk reports: TASS, 17 July 19:55 Moscow time It is reported that on 16 of July Ukraine brought Buks to Donetsk region.
 * Ukrainian Buk sighting: 16 July 2014, Evening News, "Час Ч" №129 Program, Ukraine.
 * Separatists Buk claim. Voiced by Anton Gerashenko, MoI, Ukraine, on Facebook. Time TBC (but not later than 21:16 Moscow time, when his claim was reported by Channel 1 TV, Russia)
 * Separatists Buk sightings: none confirmed. Plume-of-smoke-on-a-sunny-afternoon photo, as well as 'Torez sighting at 12:00 ' photo, appeared in Gerashenko Facebook post on 17 of July.


 * 14.10  EST, 22.10 pm Moscow Obama briefly speaks about the crash at a pre-planned event (offer of possible assistance, no accusations)

West accuses Russia.
 * 17 July,10:38 PM EST. White House Press Release. "While we do not yet have all the facts, we do know that this incident occurred in the context of a crisis in Ukraine that is fueled by Russian support for the separatists, including through arms, materiel, and training".
 * 20 July, John Kerry interview, CBS news. Secretary of State John Kerry made the rounds on the talk show circuit Sunday confirming the U.S. has “evidence” to conclude that Russia provided separatists in Eastern Ukraine with the weapons used to shoot down the Malaysia Airlines jet.

Video

 * 18+ БОИНГ-777. Ужасающие подробности. 29.08.2014 / #MH17 – Anna News, August 29, 2014
 * With German subtitles: #MH17 Der fliegende Nicht Holländer 18+ (The Flying Dutchman, NOT!)
 * Спецвыпуск. По следам "Боинга 777". 2 месяца спустя трагедии" #MH17 18.09.2014 (In the wake of the Boeing 777 – 2 months after tragedy) – Anna News, 18.09.2014
 * At 46 minutes there is a closeup of the cockpit.
 * First minutes after crash published in KP, 16 November 2014. Villages in attendance, one utters "rocket" (referring to the cause), no further usable audio info.
 * MH17 Dutch «forgot» to rescue wreckage with bullet holes – ENG SUBS – TV-News Russian Channel 1, Dec 2, 2014
 * Hollannin törkeä salausoperaatio: Luodinreikiä sisältävät lennon MH17 kappaleet jätetty Donetskiin – Verkkomedia.org, 17.12.2014
 * В Торезе сбили самолет (In Torez downed plane) – Сергей Сидоренко (Sergei Sidorenko), July 17, 2014
 * People in Torez stare at the sky, point to what may be smoke trails. 30 seconds later a dark plume from the crash appears in the horizon.
 * 17.07.2014, Торез, ополченцы сбили пассажирский самолет Амстердам - Куала-Лумпур – ДИВАН ОНЛАЙН
 * Shows smoke from crash and cloud cover. (source)
 * Торез Снежное Появились первые кадры виновника смерти 300 пассажиров гражданского самолета (Mirror :-) – 07.17.2014
 * Shows BUK TELAR moving south from Snezhnoye.
 * Few minutes before the accident, eyewitnesses saw another (military) plane, Channel 1, Russia, dated 17 July 2014, 22:07 (Moscow) according to the time shown on the web page. Announcer: Few minutes before the accident, eyewitness saw another military plane, according to RIA Novosti reports. And now, Alexandr Evstigneev reports from the scene on the phone. "Representatives from oplochenie confirmed that they found 8 out of 12 on-board recorders, the so-called black boxes. I remind (earlier report, 21:03 Moscow Time) that opolchenie representatives suggested the following hypothesis: a Ukrainian fighter, a SU plane, shot down a passenger plane not near Snezhnoe. After this, this military plane was shot down by opolchenie. It is not known whether the pilot was found, or whether he parachuted to safety. If he is found, he will be a key witness".  We see footage of burning wreckage, firefighter at work, passengers' passports, etc.
 * 21:03 report gives panoramic view of burning plane from a distance; no missile trails (or planes) can be seen in that footage.
 * Same footage here


 * Few minutes before the accident, eyewitnesses saw another plane, Channel 1, Russia, dated 17 July 2014, 22:45 (Moscow) according to the time shown on the web page. Footage shows two witnesses, said to be from Grabovo. First, audio recording of a  lady, 'Tatiana', over the phone, from Donetsk region, Ukraine. She heard sound of two planes, than 2 or 3 explosions. When she went outside, she says "one plane was burning behind some trees", another was "flying away" , She than repeats, explaining there were 3 (or 2) explosions in the air (she initially thought it was bombing, but it was not), and than one plane "fell down, and was burning", another flew "to the other side, towards Dnepropetrovsk" . Second witness (video of a male). It starts with  "before that, there was some shooting in the air, several shots" , than "a loud bang, as if really close" . Then he saw a plane emerging from the clouds and falling apart. In the clip we are given, he does not explicitly mention a second plane (but this is suggested by 'shooting' prior to 'loud bang'). This appears to be the earliest recorded witness claim. Web page has photos showing smoking wreckage, and a firefighter next to the wreckage.
 * 17.07. Anton Gerashenko makes several Facebook posts claiming that MH17 was shot by rebels using Buk.
 * (1) He posts a crash video, and claims that the rebels shot the plain using Buk provided by Putin.
 * (2) Refutes claims that Ukrainian Buk shot down Boeing. Makes a claim that: at 12:00 a Buk was seen in Torez, arriving from Shaktersk; an hour after that, rebels and equipment sign-posed  "Vostok" were seen in Torez; and than one hour prior to the crash more arrived from Snezhnoe and they all departed to Shaktersk
 * (3) Posts photo claimed to show 'Buk trail' (the lots-of-sunlight-and-plume photo), which he says "was made several minutes after Buk launch, in the 3 microdistrict of Torez, 'from the West to the East, seen by thousands of people', and claims that " we determined that terrorists were in possession of "Buk" which was documented (зафиксирован) by us in the area of Torez and Snezhoe cities.
 * (4)Claims that 'one of the two Buks is located in center of Snezhnoe", while 'Putin calls Obama to report on information from Russian dispatchers
 * (5) Posts a photo showing "Buk in Torez"
 * Gerashenko is quoted in Odessa 1 TV footage at 21:00 Ukrainian time (22:00 Moscow time), blaming separatists. That is followed by a report on Ukrainian plane shot by a "Russian plane", pilot bailed out an was rescued; exact date/time/place of that event is not provided.
 * Russian Channel 1 TV corresponded in Kiev makes her report on the Buk claim, quoting Ukrainian TV channels, dated 17 July 2014, 23:30 (Moscow) according to the time shown on the web page.

Accusations

 * Latest Ukrainian Intelligence News – The XX Committee, August 7, 2014
 * Версия: Пилот украинских ВВС, сбивший малайзийский «Боинг», скрывается в Эмиратах (Version: Ukrainian Air Force pilot who shot down Malaysian Boeing is hiding in the Emirates) – Alexander Grishin, Komsomolskaya Pravda, December 4, 2014

Photos

 * Scenes of MH17 20-7-2014 – Jeroen Akkermans RTL News Berlin
 * High quality photos of wreckage, including critical images of (rod) warhead damage to left wing.
 * Flight MH17, Donetsk region, Ukraine – Joost Bosman
 * MH17 CRASH SITE: PHOTOS FROM THE MORNING AFTER – CHRISTO GROZEV, JULY 23, 2014
 * Все больше фактов за то, что малайзийский «Боинг» был сбит истребителем (Growing evidence for the fact that the Malaysian "Boeing" was shot down by fighter) – Nicholas VARSEGOV, Komsomolskaya Pravda, November 12, 2014
 * Video
 * Все больше фактов за то, что малайзийский «Боинг» был сбит истребителем
 * Украинская сторона стала опять обстреливать территорию с обломками малазийского лайнера
 * Украинские пушки бьют по месту катастрофы «Боинга», чтобы не дать работать голландским специалистам (Ukrainian cannon strike the site of the disaster "Boeing" to prevent work Dutch specialists) – November 10, 2014
 * САМОЛЕТ БОИНГ-777 МАЛАЗИЙСКИХ АВИАЛИНИЙ УПАЛ В РАЙОНЕ ГОРОДА ШАХТЕРСК ДОНЕЦКОЙ ОБЛАСТИ - СМИ – Smoke plumes
 * MH17 - 2 - podpolkovnikvvs, 19.10.2014
 * Photo album was posted on 19.10.14, apparently originated from someone living in the area. This photo from the album apparently shows pilot seat, with incoming shrapnel apparently from the left. There are many other photos as well.

Satellite Imagery

 * Aviation Week with Digital Globe Images -UPDATE: DigitalGlobe's Before and After Images of MH17 Crash Site Jul 21, 2014 by Amy Svitak in On Space

Russian, Ukrainian, but no (official) US images
As part of their July 21 presentation of evidence, the Russian Ministry of Defense published satellite images allegedly showing Ukrainian BUK positions around Donetzk (RT report). On July 30, Vitalyi Naida, head of Ukrainian Security Service SBU’s counter-intelligence, came up with a series of slides (short article, announcement on SBU website with link to youtube-video showing the slides (presumably Ukrainian language)) allegedly showing that the Russian material was "faked". On August 1, the Russian Ministry of Defense published a rebuttal advising that
 * Instead of presenting hastily doctored evidence to the international community, the SBU could do with better control over all the mercenary units in the areas around Donetsk and Lugansk organized by Kolomoisky, Lyashko, Yarosh and others, who shell Ukrainian territory without any control from those in charge of the anti-terrorist operation.

As RT's August 1 article carries over, they made some very interesting allegations. Claiming prior alleged satellite image deception, weather mismatches, signs of alteration, and satellite positioning issues, the article says:
 * The images, which Kiev claims were taken by its satellites at the same time as those taken by Russian satellites, are neither Ukrainian nor authentic, according to Moscow's statement.
 * The Defense Ministry said the images were apparently made by an American KeyHole reconnaissance satellite, because the two Ukrainian satellites currently in orbit, Sich-1 and Sich-2, were not positioned over the part of Ukraine’s Donetsk Region shown in the pictures.

As explained here on the discussion page, this is a humorous way of pointing out Ukraine has no satellites, so this must have been provided by someone else.
 * ... the real owners of those photos are hesitating to publish them under their own name, since it would derail the myth of the omniscience of their space reconnaissance,” the Russian ministry said.

It also simply might conflict with what the Ukrainians did with the images after they were released to them, but not to the global public.

Analysis

 * The Su, the BUK and the Satellite – Christo Grozev, July 21, 2014
 * Passing the Buk – William Bowles, 22 July 2014
 * MH17 Downing: Background Context & Cause Hypothesis – A. G. Gelbert, July 25, 2014
 * Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 – Wikispooks
 * MH17 Verdict: Real Evidence Points to US-Kiev Cover-up of Failed False Flag, 21st Century Wire, July 25, 2014
 * Shocking Analysis of the ‘Shooting Down’ of Malaysian MH17 – Peter Haisenko, July 30, 2014
 * Kun taivaalta sataa matkustajakoneita – Aleksei Kettunen, Verkkomedia.org, 1.8.2014 (In Finnish)
 * First Examination of Malaysian MH-17 Cockpit Photo Shows Ukraine Government Shot that Plane Down – Eric Zuesse, 7/31/2014
 * Evidence Is Now Conclusive: Two Ukrainian Government Fighter-Jets Shot Down Malaysian Airlines MH17. It was Not a ‘Buk’ Surface to Air Missile – Eric Zuesse, Global Research, August 04, 2014
 * US Analysts Conclude MH17 Downed By Aircraft – Haris Hussain, New Straits Times, 07 August 2014
 * Boeing-777 was downed by Ukrainian MiG-29, Romanian expert says – Lyuba Lulko, Pravda.Ru, 13.08.2014
 * Vanishing point… – Pepe Escobar
 * Another Journalist Exposes MH17 False Flag – Adam Baum, August 19, 2014
 * Ukraine's False Flag Plane Shoot Down – Brother Nathanael
 * Off course trajectory of debris field proves that MH-17 deviated 14 miles to the left – Clarity of Signal, August 23, 2014
 * MH17 FULLY EXPOSED!! You Won't Believe The SHOCKING TRUTH About the Ukraine FALSE FLAG Corbett Report, Aug 26, 2014
 * MH 17 Who Dunnit? Western Media Silent on the Evidence – Joe Quinn, Sott.net, 01 Sep 2014
 * The Duke Photo: A closer look at the MH-17 satellite images debacle Denis O'Brien, LogoPhere.com, Nov 18, 2014
 * MH17 – The Perfect Crime?, Max van der Werff, 7mei.nl, November 30, 2014

Discussion

 * MH17 down near Donetsk – PPRuNe
 * IOUCO-International Observatory of Ukrainian Conflict – thread with links on Facebook

Summaries

 * MH17 - Mitä ilmassa tapahtui? – Sinikivi, September 2014
 * Finnish language summary of findings presented here


 * MH-17: The Untold Story, RT Documentary, October 22, 2014

Independent investigations

 * What Happened to Flight MH17? - blog
 * How the Malaysian "Boeing" was shot down (translated by Cassad English)
 * (Cites us: Talk:Crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17/Forensics)
 * Original: В обломках MH17 найден стержень от ракеты "воздух-воздух" Р-60М (Rod from R-60M air-to-air missile found in the wreckage of MH17) - evanesce_girl, 1 March 2015
 * Сенсационное расследование: "Боинг" все-таки сбила Украина (Sensational investigation: "Boeing" still hit by Ukraine) - politonline, 3 March 2015
 * MH 17 – Abschuss durch ukrainische SU 25 ist bewiesen (MH 17 - fired from Ukrainian SU 25 is proved)- Peter Haisenko, AnderweltOnline, March 7, 2015

Official investigation

 * Investigation crash MH17, 17 July 2014 Donetsk – Dutch Safety Board, 21 Aug 2014
 * Российский союз инженеров: реконструкция атаки на «Боинг» (Russian Union of Engineers: reconstruction of the attack on the "Boeing") – August 31, 2014

Secondary sources on investigations

 * Bundesregierung zu Flug MH17: Keine "gesicherten Erkenntnisse" über Abschuss – Rainer Leurs, Der Spiegel, Sept 7, 2014
 * Russia proposes appointing UN special envoy for MH17 crash probe — Churkin – ITAR-TASS, 20 Sept 2014
 * MH17: Duitse regering erkent indirect dat Oekraïne schuldig kan zijn (MH17: German Government indirectly admits that Ukraine may be guilty) – JDreport, 12 Oct 2014
 * MH17-Chief Investigator Investigates Possibility of Air-to-Air Missile, Seeks Cooperation From Russia – Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis, October 29, 2014
 * ''Spiegel Online interviews Fred Westerbeke, the Dutch lead investigator of flight MH17 crash.


 * “They are playing tennis—three sets every match to try and kill us.” – Col. Tulip, Slavyangrad.org, October 28, 2014
 * Dutch government refuses to reveal ‘secret deal’ into MH17 crash probe – RT, November 20, 2014
 * Malaysia must take leading role in MH17 investigations, says Suaram - Nation – The Star Online, November 22, 2014
 * ''"The government should not put up with being sidelined in the (criminal) investigations. The airliner belonged to Malaysia, a big group of the victims were Malaysian," said Kua.


 * Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 Investigation: Trail of Guarded Secrets, Phil Butler, Epoch Times, December 10, 2014


 * Tries an investigation into the investigation and runs into a wall of silence, with some exceptions like Dutch MP Pieter Omtzigt. Says Omtzigt:


 * “…As to the intel, it is worth noting that both sides do not put the evidence on the table. That is worrying. This is one of the most closely guarded spots on the earth in terms of eavesdropping, satellite monitoring and much else from two sides (Russia and United States with allies). Both sides know a lot more that they are willing to share with the world community.”


 * Why the Secrecy on the Mh17 Investigation – JAMES O'NEILL, DECEMBER 19-21, 2014

30 million dollars reward for information leading to the perpetrators
September 17, 2014: "The fraud investigation company Wifka has been charged with investigating the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17. Their client is providing 30 million dollars as a reward for information and evidence. [...] The money is securely deposited in Zurich, Switzerland. It will be paid there or in a different neutral place of the whistle-blower’s choice. Wifkas client offers to give the whistle-blower a new identity. Please contact ..." (as reported by Capital, Der Spiegel etc)

On November 24, Wifka investigator Josef Resch announces in an interview with Capital, calling for "a second Snowden", that an additional 17 million dollars will be rewarded for hints exposing the cover-up of the investigation. He calls the recent BND remarks blaming Separatists a "Schmarrn", which is a Bavarian slang word that could be translated as "poppycock". According to him, "every conspiracy theorist in the world" has contacted him by now, and some have tried to sell elaborate fakes. But he's also in contact with "serious informants".

Legal responsibility
Families of three German victims sue Ukraine Government over failure to close the airspace.
 * Families of German MH17 victims to sue Ukraine - lawyer – Reuters, Sep 21, 2014
 * Familien der deutschen Opfer verklagen Ukraine – BILD, September 21, 2014
 * Mother of MH17 plane crash victim sues Ukraine in European court: paper, Reuters, November 30, 2014
 * The mother of the victim named as "Olga L." was seeking $1 million in compensation from Kiev for manslaughter by negligence and had begun proceedings [at the European Court of Human Rights] in the past week, Bild am Sonntag newspaper said on Sunday.