Talk:Alleged Chemical Attack, April 11, 2014

Video

 * Brown Moses playlist 8 videos so far. Actually seems to cover a second attack of the same siort here, on the 18th! WTF? --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:22, 22 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Alleged Chemical Attack in Kafr Zita, Hama, April 11th 2014 - 16 videos so far. --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:25, 22 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Collection of recent videos allegedly showing scenes of chlorine poisoning (not necessarily on the 11th), some more obviously fake than others, by @Syricide. Here for example are two hilarious "doctors" with sunglasses. --CE (talk) 11:26, 22 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Haaaaam Kffersita | moment of revelation and an explosion in the barrel of the town and the escalation of toxic gases I see an explosion, big, at sunset (or maybe sunrise), And I hear Allahu Akbar before, during and after it. I'm not hearing a helicopter.


 * Important Media Hama Kffersita moment the fall of explosive barrels bearing toxic materials from helicopters on This seems to be the same blast, preceded by an object, falling from a helicopter. It's really quiet, way the hell up there. --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:37, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

SOHR Facebook

 * [https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe/posts/512909005484109?stream_ref=10 April 11 final toll:} No mention. 4 soldiers, two civilians, one rebel killed.
 * April 12 final toll: No mention either. 5 soldiers, one civilian, one JaN fighter "killed by barrels bombardment on Hama countryside. ."
 * April 13 final toll: Still nothing. 3 soldiers, 3 civilians, 1 JaN.
 * April 14: Same. 2 civilians, 1 rebel, 4 soldiers.
 * April 15: "Hama province: The airforce renewed bombardment on the Kafrzeita town amid regime bombardment on parts of the Mourk town with no reports of injuries. 1 woman suffocated to death after aerial bombardment on the Kafrzeita town and its surrounding areas."

Apparently, then the people who knew about this attack at the time are not members of SOHR's extensive activist network. People outside that include the Syrian government, the various Islamist and especially al-Qaeda groups ... also, it suggests that this helicopter dropping this regime-improvised device was not terribly visible to the wider populace, which will include SOHR types, normally. Maybe it was a low-flying chopper, killing people in a basement somewhere? --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:14, 22 April 2014 (UTC)


 * SOHR side-notes: ... - 4-19 "clashes continue between regime forces backed by NDF, against Islamic battalions and Jabhat Al-Nusra around Morek town in the northern countryside} -  4-20 Islamists shell Alawites on Easter - same - 4/21 continued fighting, bombing around Morek

The Device
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Timing

 * Most of chemical weapons removed from Syria: UN spokesman (Xinhua, April 22)