Translation Requests

It occurred to me we could use more translation work done, and that this might be a good way to do it - have a public "drop box" so any Arabic-speaking readers (primarily) can see what would help, and perhaps just sign up and do it. --Caustic Logic (talk) 06:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Should we sign requests and answers, so we can see who we're responding to? I think so. All mine below are stamped now. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * For Khan al-Assal Massacre July 22, 2013: An al-Nusra rebel denial video. FSA we did not massacre anyone in Khan Al assal Someone else must have massacred anyone who was massacred, apparently, because they say ... what? (mid-length video, 2:16) --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * For 2014 Ma'an Massacre (Feb. 9): There is an Arabic victims list, 20 names, posted here on Facebook by Alaa Ibrahim. If we had these names in text form we could get transliterations - or maybe there is already one or both of those around?
 * I can answer this! There's this text posting from Jablah News Network. Will work on and add. This, to make an empty page lively, I will leave for now. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * For Deir Baalba Massacre April, 2012: Deir Ba'alba | Homs | Mass Numbers of Martyrs Murdered by Assad Forces (wrapped bodies, not gory) - the names written on the victims' shrouds might be of interest. Also, anything in the narration that's of interest (names, dates, specific allegations, etc.) --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Same case: "alah yahmik ya soria ya rab" - God something Syria something. This is a Wikimpaia label just north of Deir Baalba. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * For Abel massacre March 25-29, 2013 - Homs Abel Notice.png --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Martyrs of the tribe of al-Akidat al-Bu Assaf They died Monday 25/03 2013 in Mazari’ Abil “among those unknown”. - Qatash al-Mahmoud (Abu Mahmoud) and his wife Nusra al-Mahmoud (Um Mahmoud) - Hawash al-Mahmoud (Abu Ali) and his wife Ghaziya al-Ifir - Children of Qatash: Mahmoud al-Mahmoud (Abu Ahmad) and his wife Khadra al-Mahmoud - Fuad al-Mahmoud (Abu Hamza) – Hamida al-Mahmoud - Huda bint Mahmoud and her young children: Ahmad al-Mahmoud – Haydar al-Mahmoud - Sajida al-Mahmoud (who were the children of Ali Ahmad al-Mahmoud) --Jokkmokks goran (talk) 09:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * For Maramarita Massacre, August 17, 2013. I tried to read this apparently related poster. I couldn't even match the first name, Amin Nakkour أمين نقرور. And there's only five to pick from. I'm trying to say who was military and thus who not, where from, etc. I also notice the date 8/18 appearing. That would apparently be new. --Caustic Logic (talk) 08:51, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

The martyrs are claimed by “The National Defence Forces in Homs and its countryside”. They “sacrified their pure blood on the path of the soil of the homeland and the glory of al-Assad’s Syria”. They are all apparently Christians by their names and as the memorial services are to be held in churches. The dates mentioned are for these services. They all carry the title ”al-shahid malazim sharaf” meaning “the martyr” + some kind of military grade “Honorary lieutenant”? No info on time, place or circumstances of death. - Fadi Matanius Iliyas - Samir Abid Watfa - Jacko Isa Sa’ada - Sumer Isa Yaziji - Basil Malik Salih --Jokkmokks goran (talk) 09:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

--Caustic Logic (talk) 09:26, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * For Houla, May 25: Who Was in Control? - a shot-up sign, May 26, 2012. Looks hard to read/guess without context. Every word and maybe even every letter helps.

To me it looks like a trafic sign plastered over with a political message. I can only make out the first and last word on the second line: "al-shahid [the martyr]...[S?]ouriya (Syria)". --Jokkmokks goran (talk) 09:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * For Houla, May 25: Who Was in Control? - this is some writing seen at the military intelligence headquarters, in this Jihadi video. What can an Arabic reader make out and/or guess of what it says? --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:34, 6 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I really can't make out anything except the middle row/"column" which says "Hafiz and Bashar" (perhaps followed by an insult) and extreme left "al-Amir" (prince/rebel commander title) Jokkmokks goran (talk) 21:21, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, JG! I figured something should be readable, if not all of it. That's enough there to work with. (I'm assembling a new report on "the Battle for the Houla Massacre") --Caustic Logic (talk) 13:44, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * But while you're paying attention - I imagine more could be guessed if you look close at the start, by the green line, and maybe elsewhere. I'll just prod - feel free to look again or not. Peace. --Caustic Logic (talk) 14:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Special Research Requests
I have none at the moment but one problem I've had is in doing Arabic-language searches. To even know which articles are good, I have to copy-and-paste the right part of the text into Google Translate. It's slow going over here. An Arabic reader could do a more effective search a lot quicker and get the best source material delivered, and maybe even pre-translated. But even just selecting the best links with the most and best information is a big step forward when that's been lacking.--Caustic Logic (talk) 06:45, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * More a general question for anyone more knowledgeable about Syrian society - re: Jandar Resort Massacre, August 2012. As I explain there:
 * The three Mtanious names seem to have been in the wrong order (Mtanious first), here and everywhere else. At whatever risk, the listing below changes the order. Is it more odd that three guys of the same (known, Christian) family work together, or that men of three families, who chose the same unusual first name, all wound up working together? 

Can anyone answer that? --Caustic Logic (talk) 08:51, 9 February 2014 (UTC)