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Source: LCC daily report for August 17, 2013. Nothing there seems to explain what this is a picture of. LCC has used incorrect/recycled images before, but not that I know ones added later (not thaat I would likely know if they had), I'd presume, though we can't be sure, this image existed and might be quite new on August 17. It looks to me like she * had recently exuded different mixtures of mucous and blood that show on the shroud. Even after washing up, she's got a tracer of the orange-ish mix coming out the left nostril.
 * (presumed, could be a young boy, I suppose)

And that's interesting because of all the people, especially kids, who were shown with similar symptoms in East Ghouta four days later. If this is Ghouta image for some reason added to this post, that can be placed there and not otherwise shown to predate it, then it's not such a clue. Otherwise, it might be. I've never seen it. Petri? Anyone else? --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:04, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

I might be stretching to link it to events of that time, like the Homs Massacres of August 17, which this report of that day fails to even hint at. This Christian village just over from the Lebanese border likely contains blue-eyed youths who look like this. Now I'm wondering about the Yarmouk Camp right in Damascus near East Ghouta. The first starved baby, which we consider possible captives, like the Ghouta victims may have been, is listed as dying August 18. The day before, 17 so-called Shabiha, of the PFLP-GC, were shot, either in a fight or more likely in captivity in some rebel basement. There's not so many blue eyes here, I'd suspect, but it's entirely possible. Some say Latakian Alawites - abducted en masse during the Latakia Massacres about a week earlier - are more fair complected, and it could be so. Some say the Ghouta victims were exceptionally fair, and that's true, to some extent (unsure). And then there are the captured masses of Kurds at about the same time, especially from Tal-Abyad, and whoever else. --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:04, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Other observations: I don't think she died from the gassing. Note the unusual knit cap and ask why. Note the very dark spot a few centimeters wide in her upper right forehead that you can still see. It looks like a head wound through the skull, probably too large for an entry wound, so maybe a bullet exit wound. Maybe this is from an experimental early batch finished off awkwardly, with the masses of August 21 processed by the refined methods? --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:04, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

2019: This looks possibly like a chemical gassing victim, but doesn't come up regarding the Ghouta attack a few days later, and it appeared on the LCC's updates for 17 August. I reasoned it was a Ghouta image added on the 21st to the report of the 18th - they're oftenb compiled a few days later. However, I just found a copy of the same image posted on Facebook on August 18 by Hajjira al-Balad Local committee. "This is how you kill innocence in my homeland. The girl Batoul alBuqaei." Post includes a picture of a girl (the same?) with a horrible head wound. Another post shows another dead, head-wounded child. Another lists them both among 11 lives "from our town" lost as of the 4th day of a "fierce campaign." That would be blamed on bombardment, you'd think, but VDC lists Boutol al-Boukaee killed 8-17 by field execution. The other child is Mokhles Moussa killed by close-up shooting. Another oddity: an adult female relative of the girl - Mazin alBuqaey - is listed dying in the same attack, yet VDC lists her as dying from shelling 2 days earlier, August 15. Others listed come up at VDC (all men from Hejjera) as: Abu Abdo al-Shamy, Abu Omar al-Shamy and Abu Yazan al-Shamy, all civilians with militant-type names, all killed by shelling on 8-16, and Mahmood Zarzoor, killed 8-19 by shooting. Another man not included is "FSA" and double-listed by the VDC, once as from Hejjera, killed by shelling (nasty face wound), once as from Yalda but killed in Hejjera, by shooting.

Anyway, the girl still looks odd, but there seems to be a real wound. How it all adds up remains unclear. --Caustic Logic (talk) 04:38, 6 October 2019 (UTC)