Talk:Odessa Trade Union massacre/Denis Cherkasov Videos

Where are the videos?
I managed to download and save all the incriminating stuff inside the Trade Union building. What is missing is some 20 videos from the top of the list shot downtown. It seems that the videos were uploaded in reverse temporal order, the 4 last ones are shot in the dusk. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 09:04, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Interesting. From the titles I suspect that they could be interpreted as harsh "removal of the dead", or do they show actual beating/killing/burning? Can't wait to see. The filmer should be identifiable from the other video material available. --CE (talk) 12:54, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I could upload my copies to YouTube, but do not want to have my account blocked for "copyright violation". Was vaiting for someone else to upload. The videos from inside are available. Seems that they contained several original videos in one upload.
 * What is missing but critical is a dusk scene were victims are carried out of the building, at about the time the fire starts. All have their heads smashed to ground beef. I do not know if they are dead or alive. Anyone left in that condition in the smoke would be dead soon though. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 21:16, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

What reason did Youtube give for pulling them? --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:01, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * YouTube did not pull them but the pro-Ukraine uploader. The videos contained incriminating evidence, so he decided to remove them as soon as Life News published the story. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 16:34, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * That's one of a couple possibilities I was confused about. So this nerd who usually makes 1-10-view cutesy CG animations is a right winger who briefly ventured into big-view snuff films? I'd wonder if he meant to expose them - pulling it could be to protect his friends or because "his friends" let him know the videos or him had to go. Did no one else really tape this stuff? Was there a memo he just didn't get? It seems most of this at least is unique. --Caustic Logic (talk) 22:28, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Re-Direct
Petri, I deleted the old page without leaving a re-direct because I still don't know how. I suppose it would be best to have that though ... also, it's a bit late now, but is it wise to keep the guy's name attached when he wanted to delete them from his name? I suppose maybe not, but it's probably too late now, with any damage done. --Caustic Logic (talk) 22:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Adam, you should have used "Move" in the right-hand many instead of copy-paste. I have now restored the deleted revisions and made a proper page move. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 22:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)