Talk:US presidential elections 2020


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Donald J Trump and Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin
DJT is a wealthy, imperfect individual, property developer, reality TV persona, US president, who believed that the system can be improved staying within the system, and that he is the man to do so.

The system so far thought otherwise.

(It may be best for the system to take a cue, as it is on a unsustainable, neo-Roman path in many areas, values, debt, inequality, oligarchy, militarism, etc. But will it?).

Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin was a simple, headstrong, imperfect individual, construction voorman, party apparatchik, politburo member, first president of modern Russia, who saw and took to heart many problems in the late Soviet Union, and thought that things can be changed for better, and that he, with those smarter then himself behind, can do it. He was expelled by the system, and brought back on strength of people support and compounding late USSR multiple problems; but was corralled by the system to have little real influence. He did not take the offer, and went outside of the system in major ways, to crush the problem-ridden system. He initially had tremendous levels of support as a successful revolutionary, but then the morning after came, when it became clear, in very painful ways, that the collapse is hard and bitter, like being thrown on the street in a cold. Crazy times of new oligarchy, wild capitalism, economic collapse, unmatched levels of free speech, present but incapable democracy ended in disappointment and US advisors coming to rescue his reelection, successful but believed to be rigged. Nemtsov and other new liberals tried to steady economic situation but failed. That all ended with Yeltsin voluntarily resigning, having serious health problems, to pass his powers to his chosen successor, Vladimir Vladmirovich Putin.

--Resup (talk) 02:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Pro-Trump rallies
December 12, 2020. Gen. Flynn speaking at a pro-Trump rally (mostly middle-aged white Christians)- with DJT helicopter making few circles over, on his way to the Army-Navy American football game. Generals are supposed to have leadership qualities. Gen. Flynn clearly does, being inspirational, but at the core quite vague. Yes, there are multiple paths. Took Moses 40 years to walk his. It is possible to start a movement which will dominate decades after. It is possible to start a media organization or a reality show, and make lots of money. Opportunities are limitless in the land of the free. But, somebody is supposed to be a president past this January, and on purely practical side, legal or legislative paths can be pursued but are not really likely to succeed, based on events so far. And while the constitution may be stressing individual rights, this is at best an ideal, not the state of events on the ground. So, which way is the walking from here ? (As for football, the Army won).

Other speakers- many Christian ministers, some activists, a few musicians.

"Dr. Steve Newman, Jewish patriot". Noted. Ended by a Hallelujah.

--Resup (talk) 12:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Biden spokesperson Jen Psaki said...

 * Million MAGA March: Thousands of pro-Trump protesters rally in Washington DC - BBC, November 14, 2020
 * Biden spokesperson Jen Psaki said...