Talk:Maidan snipers

Unseen snipers

 * ''Moved from Talk:Unseen Snipers in the Syrian Conflict


 * Syria سورية on Facebook – January 22, 2014
 * ''Ukraine, Unknown snipers/ Funny, Ukrainian opposition (like Syrian opposition) uses pictures from other countries for their propaganda. First picture - from Ukraine, second picture - from Kyrgyzstan (2010).


 * Moscow blames radicals for deadly clashes in Ukraine, EU leaders ponder sanctions against government – RT, Feb 19, 2014
 * ''Twenty-six people were killed overnight in the most violent clashes yet to have occurred between security forces and protesters since the opposition took to the streets of Kiev in November 2013. Ten of the casualties are Ukrainian police officers, who died of gunshot wounds, as did the rest of the victims, the Interior Ministry reported.
 * ''The Ukrainian Ministry of the Interior believes the casualties in the clashes could have been killed by the radicals, because the police do not use fire arms.
 * ''"Taking into consideration the nature of the dead civilians’ wounds and also the nature of the weapons, which have been confiscated, we can assume that these wounds were inflicted by violent protesters,” a statement at the Ministry’s website says. “Police officers and interior troops do not use fire arms. Law enforcers are only using non-lethal weapons.”
 * ''Some of the European leaders have not been convinced and have been quick to lay the blame for the violence on the Ukrainian president.
 * ''Several EU leaders have already spoken of introducing sanctions against the Ukrainian leadership, who they view as responsible for the crisis.


 * Rioters seize over 1,500 guns in Ukraine mayhem - security services – RT, Feb 19, 2014
 * Footage from Tuesday’s clashes showed masked rioters firing pistols and rifles from behind the barricades and ramming police cordons with trucks. Reports from the scene claimed both police officers and rioters were hospitalized with gunshot wounds. The official Kiev health department count said that 19 of the victims were shot by live ammunition. Dozens more police officers received serious wounds, with officials noting that many of them were shot in the head or in the neck with “sniper-like precision.” (original emphasis)


 * Escalation today. Apparently snipers are on the roofs at the Maidan killing dozens in broad daylight. Earlier they targeted police. Here's a video showing people getting shot from behind, the direction of the filmer - see bullet hitting tree at 20 sec in. --CE (talk) 12:30, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No, the fire is coming from the right, from front of the insurgents. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 17:09, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I said right, but maybe to the left and behind? Slowed and enhanced: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fi5BIOtDeg . Much more and the talk page might be a better spot. The second shooting - WTH? --Caustic Logic (talk) 13:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)


 * RT crews under fire, armed rioters take over hotel, fire from windows in Kiev – RT, February 20, 2014
 * ''Armed protesters have taken control of Hotel Ukraine, trapping members of the RT crew inside.
 * ''“We were just shot at. It broke a window over here. We were standing centimeters away when a gunshot hit the room where we have our live position,” RT correspondent Aleksey Yaroshevsky said, pointing to the window that had been smashed by the gunfire. He said there were unidentified snipers firing from buildings all around Independence Square.


 * Ukraine crisis: Deadly snipers extinguish lives of Kiev's protesters – David Blair, The Telegraph, 20 Feb 2014
 * The Telegraph counts 29 dead insurgents. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 06:15, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The Syria syndrome hits Ukraine in full force as "demonstrations" turn into a shooting war – John-Paul Leonard, @progresivepres, Feb 22, 2014
 * Idle speculation, some more references. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 06:21, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Videos

 * Shooting people in Kiev / Стральба па пратэстоўцах у Кіеве. (20.02.2014, APTN) – Feb 20, 2014
 * Революцiя Україна Київ Контратака Майдану вул.Інститутська 2014.02.20 – Full video 41 minutes
 * Силовики стріляють бойовими кулями (Siloviki fire fighting bullets) – RadioSvobodaOrg, Feb 20, 2014
 * Ukrainian police fire at protesters in Kiev – video – reposted by The Guardian
 * Here on Facebook it is suggested that the troops are not Berkut at all, but "Right Sector" extremist.
 * Ukraine: Snipers target police in Independence Square – RuptlyTV, Feb 20, 2014
 * ''Anti-government forces armed with hunting rifles took up sniper positions in a downtown Kiev hotel on Thursday, overlooking protesters and police clashing in Maidan Square below. Police marksmen targeted gunmen appearing in the windows as the two groups exchanged live fire.
 * This seems to be a rebel video filmed at the Ukraine Hotel. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 18:59, 20 February 2014 (UTC)


 * 40-minute video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a25_1393030880
 * I can't even see this one over here, old player or not. Will rely on help if enhancements of short clips is needed. Unless it works for me tomorrow. (??) I hear it's extra-brutal, staring after 10:00 anyway (with the part before perhaps holding clues). This one sounds like it'll be important to analyze carefully. --Caustic Logic (talk) 15:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Also copy on youtube. Didn't watch it yet. The uploader has made some "truth" videos, this one showing the snipers up close. He says their weapons are "AKMS" which aren't used by the state anymore but were in that raided weapon depot. No military boots. Yellow armbands - i've seen those on videos of "right sector" worn by their "security" people, but of course that doesn't mean much on its own. --CE (talk) 15:44, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I already linked to the original 41 minute video. At 3 minutes you shall see that the "fake Berkut" are defending a museum on Institute Street opposite the Maidan. The claim that these are Right Sector is totally bogus. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 18:50, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, seeing it now, sorry. However, the one above is implied as a segment, but it's a different video, with the tree shooting. On the long one, maybe the same scenes, but a different angle. I have the Youtube video saved (only way I can even watch it well) Not seeing much that's different - rioters advancing on something official, getting shot in the legs and sutff on occasion. At 35:08 you can see one of their white power crosses they try not to display too much these days. Any interesting points anyone can point me to? --Caustic Logic (talk) 02:41, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Fake Bullet Holes Radio Svoboda YT video, 2:16 I had seen this in a re-posting. I replied to a comment calling the bullet holes in the shield fake. (One hole is square. Pick-axe? The blood where the metal was wounded - real or nail polish? Gunshot or poked fingertip? Not sure) That posting was then deleted (maybe coincidence). This version won't be embarrassed away. Are those comments in Russian or Ukranian or both? That matters. Several claim this is faked, one at least cursing the kid who'd lie to the world like that. These comments have by far the most up-votes, including by me - some have 20+ votes up. (The built-in translation there now is really handy. ) --Caustic Logic (talk) 15:45, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Yanukovich death squads – Pravyi Sector


 * Как снайперы убивали активистов на Институтской. Полная версия видео (Snipers killed activists Instytutska. Full version of the video)


 * Майдан, который не покажут в новостях. Часть1 (Maidan, which does not show in the news. Part 1)

Victims

 * (split from above section - many but not all of these were killed by )

Pravda Ukraine List
A list of victims from February 19th and 20th with photos is published by Ukrainian Pravda:
 * Загиблі герої Майдану – pravda.com.ua, 21.02.2014


 * Interesting. This is more when it was just protesters shot? I suspect these were, peaceful, doing nothing. Compared to the list of sniper target characteristics to look for: some kind of effeminate or sensitive looking guys predominate - this one was in Tears for Fears maybe - a longhair - some kind of artist - several middle-aged men (50+ predominates), a 73-year-old, a few in their 30s, a few in their teens, not so many of prime fighting age. No ovious toughs shown. This guy is closest - too pudgy. One is "member of the district council Horodenka Ivano-Frankivsk from Svoboda" I only translated a few. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:40, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Fighting age, or fitness, won't likely matter here like it does in Syria, except with people already recruited. Mainly we should look for visible clues that might suggest a person Nazi thugs would pick to put a bullet in, as a bonus for creating another protester "shot by government sniper" to help "justify" your rampage as you go. --Caustic Logic (talk) 07:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm making a list of Google-translated entries. Unless I counted wrong, there are 68 (I was wrong - 67) protesters/activists/others (it's really a mixed bag) and 11 policemen killed. It'll take too long to finish before posting. Name orders tend to be family first, personal second, but there seem to be exceptions. Only select photos for now. --Caustic Logic (talk) 07:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Aratunyan George, Rivne (region), about 50 years. photo: Svoboda supporter
 * 2) Baydovskyy Sergei, 23 years old, an employee of trunk pipelines "Druzhba". He died from a gunshot wound to the lung February 20, 2014.  He lived in Lutsk, loved the city, most of all he loved his native Ukraine. One of the last quotes on his page "VKontakte" Lev Lukyanenko words: "A nation that is not ready to send the children to death, would not survive ..." He died from a gunshot wound at the Independence Square in Kiev on February 20.
 * 3) Brezdenyuk Valery, 50, Zhmerynka, Ukrainian businessman ebru artist in the art (drawings on the water). Killed shot in the back, February 18, 2014
 * 4) Sergei Bondarchuk, 52, Starokostyantyniv Khmelnitsky region. chytel physics, chairman of the City of Starokostyantinivskiy (Khmelnitsky region) "Svoboda". February 20, 2014 in Kiev, died due to a gunshot wound inflicted by a sniper
 * 5) Sergey Bondarev, 32 years Kramatorska. Programmer. Died February 18 from 4-ball injuries during the first attack on the square. His wife Svetlana eight months pregnant.
 * 6) Vajda / Biden Bogdan, 58 years. Single. Recently, he lived with his mother in the village. Of flight Drogobytskyy area. Went on Kyiv on February 19. In the morning the next day, arrived in Kyiv, called sister "Honey, there is a real war, shoot ..." - then broke off the conversation. On the same day in the afternoon in the waiting room of the village council Letnyanskoyi phone rang. Reported the death of Bogdan, who was killed by a sniper bullet killer.
 * 7) Vasyltsov Vitali from the White Church. Married, 36 years old, shot and killed on the street. Big Zhitomir (?), father of two children. Has a photo an video
 * 8) Varenitsa Roman M., 35. With Yavoriv Region. February 20 shot dead on the street. Big Zhitomir.
 * 9) Vyacheslav Veremiy, a journalist of the newspaper "Vesti", 32 years. Titushky vystrelyly man in the chest. He died in the hospital the morning of February 19, 2014 due to loss of blood from the gunshot wound. Without father left 4-month son Vyacheslav. photo See  below.
 * 10) Voytovych Nazar, 17. Student-tretokursnyk College for Ternopil. Died February 20, 2014
 * 11) Golodniuk Ustym, 20, Zbraj city, Ternopil region. Volunteer of the Democratic Alliance. Died February 20 at the hotel "Ukraine" as a result of a gunshot wound to the head. photo (leather suit, thumbs up)
 * 12) John Horodnyuk, Berezne Rivne region: He died due to illness, which got on Square (February 19, John returned home from the square, because during the last storm "berkutivtsyamy" doused him with water from water cannons and beat. Turned to doctors started treatment. But at night the young man's heart broke and stopped photo - rifle, traditional dress
 * 13) Hrynevych Edward Volyn, 30. He was killed on February 20.
 * 14) Huryk Roman. 19 years. Student Prikarpatsky University, Department of Psychology. From Ivano-Frankivsk. February 19, 2014 Roman killed by sniper about 12:15. Clearly in high. (from above/on high?) photo
 * 15) Sergey Didych, 44, deputy district council Horodenka Ivano-Frankivsk from Svoboda, 44 years. Died February 18, 2014. photo
 * 16) Dvoryanets Antonina, 62-year-old resident of Brovarov. February 18 her body is found on the barricades located outside Institute, at the upper entrance to the subway "Khreschatyk".
 * 17) Dyhdalovych Andrew and Sokolniki villages (Lviv), 40. photo (looks militant)
 * 18) Dzyavulskyy Nicholas and Shepetovka 56 years. Teacher of Geography and Biology, a member of Svoboda. Instytutska shot on February 20 sniper. photo, smiling photo - tribute poster
 * 19) Dmitrov Games (Igor) of s.Kopanky Kalush district, Ivano-Frankivsk region. Died February 20, 2014. He was only 30 years old. Within a few hours his hopelessly searched. 17:00 And about the 17 th hospital in Kyiv received information that Igor Dmitrov died.
 * 20) Anatoly Zhalovaha of m.Dublyany Lvivskoi region., 33 years. Shot dead on 20 February.
 * 21) Anatoly pregnant (Zherebnyy) with Rudok, Lviv region. 28 years. Employee Vyshnyanskoho Agricultural College representative there the City Council. Died February 20, 2014 by a sniper bullet. 9f16461-zherebenyi.jpg (photo: militant protest vet - apparently Asiatic and chubby)
 * 22) Vladimir Zakharov, 57 years. IT specialist. He died in a fire at the office of the Party of Regions to Lipsky . According to some sources , the man choked with smoke bombs after he was beaten with bats , pieces of pipe and feet. According to others, shot pistol shot to the head.
 * 23) Zaikov James, 73, Zhytomyr. MP of Ukraine 1 (12) convocation, chief editor of " Voice of the citizen ." February 18, 2014, died of a heart attack to escape the " Berkut " on the street . Instytutska . photo
 * 24) Alexander Kapinos, 29, activist "Svoboda " village Danube, Ternopil region . In 2012, survived 12 days without food in protest against the " language law ". During clashes in Hrushevskoho February 18 grenade hit him - said his friend Michael Zgar . - He struck an artery . Sasha was hospitalized , but he died in hospital
 * 25) Kemskyy Sergey, 33, from Kerch . He worked at the Institute for Political and economic risks and prospects for writing " Ukrayisnkoyi truth" article. Died February 20, 2014
 * 26) David Kipiani of Georgia. His body was found next to the barricade near TsUMa with two bullet wounds . He died in the " speedy ". Stayed yearling son
 * 27) Andrew Korczak with Stry, Lviv region. He died in the gap of the internal organs after beating February 18. According Hazeta.ua , Korczak He came from a family of former repressed (репресованих) (represovanykh) (prisoner?). He was unmarried. (link: Hazeta.ua)
 * 28) Igor Kostenko, 22 , a student geographer from Lviv. Died February 20, 2014.
 * 29) Kishchuk Vladimir Zaporozhye. Born in 1956 He died on February 18 in Kiev during clashes between protesters and " berkutivtsyamy ." Fractured head- neck area . Body found in house officers
 * 30) Eugene Kotlyar, 33 years old, from Kharkov. As written on Facebook Vladimir Chystylin , he is known in the " Green Front " on events in Gorky Park . He was killed on February 20. Володимир Чистилін (Facebook page) 373d94f-kotlyar.jpg (photo - kind of a "Goth" looking long-hair guy, "green," possibly considers himself "Pagan" (didn't read)
 * 31) Cremano John of Kremenchug. Died February 20 Instytutska.
 * 32) Kotsyuba Vitali from Lviv, 31. Born in the village Voroblyachyn Yavoriv Region . Died February 20, 2014 from a gunshot wound . He left a young wife and two kids.
 * 33) Kulchytsky Vladimir of Kyiv, 1949 The ball was on the flight to the heart, stuck in clothes. The second hit him in the stomach. old b/w photo
 * 34) Dmitry Maksimov. Died February 18, 2014 . Silver and bronze medalist in judo Deaflympics in Sofia. Yomuvidirvalo hand grenade . Boy died from blood loss at the House of Unions.
 * 35) Andrei Movchan, 34, Kyiv . He worked in theater . Frank lighter , a member of the Democratic Alliance . He died from a gunshot wound to the head Feb. 20, 2014
 * 36) Basil Moses . 21 years, activist Kivertsi city organization "Svoboda" Volyn region. Died February 20, 2014
 * 37) Vladimir Naumov from the village of Shevchenko, Donetsk region. March 9, 1970
 * 38) Opanasyuk Valery, Rivne. Born in 1971 . Rivne. He died on February 20 sniper bullets, leaving his wife a widow and four children - orphans. The youngest child - son - two years naystrashniy daughter - 12.
 * 39) Pahor Dmitry Khmelnitsky, 21. He died from a bullet to the head of the SBU in the walls of Khmelnytsky about eight pm, February 19, 2014.
 * 40) Pawluk Vladimir Coloma, about '40
 * 41) Pankiv Nicholas, s.Lapayivka Lviv region., 39 years old
 * 42) Parashchuk Yuri Talne, Cherkasy region , 1966 born In some lists the victims listed that he was a resident Talne , Cherkasy region. In others - that Kharkov. Member of "Svoboda ". Got a gunshot wound in his head of security forces during the retreat from the barricades in the street Instytutskiy February 20, 2014.
 * 43) Pashalin Yuri from Cherkasy region, 1984 born Died February 20, 2014 in Kiev from 3 gunshot wounds in the back and pneumatic injury.
 * 44) Alexander Plekhanov, 22 years . He died on February 18.
 * 45) Leonid Polyansky, 38 years. He died on the Maidan. Relatives say he was a cheerful man and could not stand by lawlessness that takes place in Ukraine - and therefore went to Independence . He is survived by children from two marriages. In recent years he lived and worked in Kiev, but the funeral will take place in Zhmerynka where I came from.
 * 46) Prohorskyy Basil, 33 years. February 18 was on the square, and since then been released on bond, was missing from the list . From FB : " 02/18/14 after work in time 17 . Poehal to Independence . During the 19th time. Already on Communications not vыhodyl . Nochevat not pryshel . Utrom not at work vыshel . Friend naydenы neighborhood of Cathedral Myhaylovskoho ego jacket and phone. Went to today opoznanye - vыbytы zubы , all blue ..." Recognize the body of February 22, 2014.
 * 47) Saienko Andrew Fastova (Kiev region), born in 1962
 * 48) Serduk Igor, 40. From Kremenchug, Poltava region . A man with vystrelyly bleed in the face. "He was building a barricade , wearing bags. During this against him and other activists attacked titushky and" berkutivtsi . " Immediately been a fight , then someone shot games in focus in the face - said Sergey Polyuhovich , deputy head of the Kremenchug " Square "photo
 * 49) Smilenko Victor, born in 1961 Kirovohrad region, Bobrinetsky area s.Borysivka . Died February 20
 * 50) Smolynskyy Vitaly Umansky district,. Furmanivka . He died on 20 February.
 * 51) Solchanyk Bogdan, 29, from Lviv, historian, teacher of Ukrainian Catholic University. He worked at the Department of Modern History Ukraine UCF. Corroborated by a report from his funeral in Lviv.
 * 52) Tarasyuk John, Volyn region, town Olyka . Date of Birth - 28 January 1993. February 20, 2014 died on the Square from a gunshot wound.
 * 53) Igor Tkachuk, born in 1975 . A resident of Great Kolomiyskogo Kamenka district, Ivano- Frankivsk region. Killed by a sniper shot February 20, 2014 . Three orphaned children - 17, 11 and a few months. photo (flowers)
 * 54) Tochyn Roman, 44, m.Hodoriv Lviv region. He died on Independence February 20, 2014 . Stayed (survived by) wife and two daughters.
 * 55) John Blok (or Tour - is the name of his wife, but since it is also called), 40. He lived in town , Lviv Oblast. Private . February 20, 2014 at Instytutska he was killed by a sniper bullet . Without a father and daughter were little son.
 * 56) Ushnevych Oleg Drogobich born in 1982 He died on 20 February. Spayperom shot on Instytutska at the October Palace . Born in Drogobych family workers NPK OAO "Galicia" Michael and Eugenia Ushnevych . Many oil workers activist was remembered at the funeral of his mother in 1985 : Eugene Ushnevych died in childbirth, birth Oleg brother. Then three years Oleg, realizing what had happened , pale and defenseless tulyvsya to his grandmother . On the Square in Kiev, Oleg Ushnevych was from day one. It is well known in Skole District , where after university teacher . In recent years, leaving to work abroad.
 * 57) Chmilenko Victor was born in 1961 of Kirovograd region. A farmer shot by a sniper . a farmer on the TV news
 * 58) Hrapachenko Alexander, 27, a theater director , Rivne. Killed by sniper bullets February 20, 2014
 * 59) Hurtsiya Zurab from Georgia 54 years old. Body found at barricade located outside Institute, at the upper entrance to the subway "Khreschatyk ". Lived in Kirovograd. He died of a heart attack.
 * 60) Chaplinsky Vladimir Obukhov . His wife works in a kindergarten in the family - 2 children. Son and had a daughter.
 * 61) Chernenko Andrew, 35. From Kyiv . Died February 19, 2014 . Without father remained 7 -month-old child ...
 * 62) Kinglet Alexander from the village. Kalinin, Kyiv region . He died at the October Palace.
 * 63) Sergei Shapoval born in 1969 of Kyiv . Found dead in the House of officers. 79c3219-shapoval.jpg (photo, cat lover)
 * 64) Schvets Victor, born October 8, 1957, p. Gatnoe Sviatoshynskyi Kyiv Kyiv region. Around one in the morning of 18 February 19, received three gunshot wounds to the abdomen on the Maidan. Express took Viktor to the hospital, but he died on the way . No parent left the child.
 * 65) -  Joseph Schilling, 61, of Drohobycha (Lviv region ). Together with his wife Anne gave birth to and raised two daughters who gave my grandfather and grandmother of four granddaughters . By profession - builder. Recent years have often traveled to Italy for work . His wife Anna works in Italy. On Kyiv traveled several times linger there for long. I live in a free, prosperous country - to grandchildren are not looking for happiness abroad. He died on February 20 headshots at the October Palace.
 * 66) - Shimko Maxim. 33 years, Vinnytsia. Died February 20, 2014 . The last record that people leave on their stoirntsi in "VKontakte" February 18 - " For Ukraine ! ! ! ! ! ! Anyone who can go to Kyiv !"
 * 67) -Shcherbaniuk Alexander, Chernivtsi, 46 years. uuchasnyk all electoral races, the head of the party primary " homeland ." Sniper vtsilyv he could about Chernivtsi tent " Motherland ", the press service of the regional branch of the party of the "Fatherland ." According to " Bukovinskoy truth" in Chernivtsi Alexander Shcherbaniuk working self-employed , engaged in construction , mainly performing plytochni work. (improved translate or sub-section needed) He left a wife , a sick mother and two children - a son who is studying in class 9 and 20 -year-old daughter. He was very active political activist . On the Square was initially intermittently. Photo: 4438b32-shcherbanyuk.jpg (sunglasses)

Dead police

 * 1) Bulitka Basil, Kyiv . 1986
 * 2) Dmitry Vlasenko, Crimea. 1982
 * 3) Vitaliy Goncharov, Crimea. Born in 1989
 * 4) MD Vladimir, Kyiv . Born in 1971
 * 5) Alexey Ivanenko, Kharkov. Born in 1977
 * 6) Peter Sawicki, Kyiv . Born in 1972
 * 7) Spichak Sergey, Berdyansk
 * 8) Teplyuk John Chernihiv. Born 1993
 * 9) Maxim Tretiak, Chernigov. Born 1993
 * 10) Fedyukin Andrew Crimea. Born in 1972
 * 11) Tsvigun Sergei, Zaporozhye. 1990 year of birth

Vesti Journalist
Entry #9 above: Vyacheslav Veremiy, a journalist of the newspaper "Vesti", 32 years. Titushky vystrelyly man in the chest. He died in the hospital the morning of February 19, 2014 due to loss of blood from the gunshot wound. Without father left 4-month son Vyacheslav. photo

Vesti means News. According to Wikipedia, there are three Vestis - A Russian TV channel until 2010, now Rossiya 24, a newscast of the latter, and also - the only newspaper - Israel's only Russian language daily. Israeli!!! Jew!!! Nazi mobs!!!

But, no ... it's just not a full list. Here is Vesti.ua reporting their reporter's death early on the 19th. Google translated:
 * Early this morning, 19 February, in the Kiev hospital emergency department died correspondent "Kiev" newspaper "Vesti" Vyacheslav Veremei . Late at night on the eve of masked men (неизвестные в масках ) opened fire on our journalist. Doctors fought for several hours life of Fame (celebrity?), but he died on the operating table.


 * Revision of "Vesti " expresses its heartfelt condolences to the families of Vyacheslav . Mourn with you . We also demand that the law enforcement authorities to conduct an investigation as soon as possible and find the killers of our journalist.


 * We appeal to all the witnesses of what happened with the request to provide information that will help find the criminals . Contact email address : info@vesti.ua.

"Masked" is usually not the right word for "helmeted." Police don't usually need to be "identified" and tracked down. The killers are, implicitly, the allies and agents of the (apparent?) new government, and the case might just be dropped now. It could be said this is a lie by a pro-Y news agency. Then, a reported for a pro-Y agency was killed. Hm. Maybe by the government did it to make the "extremists" look bad? Then, it's acknowledged at least that the extremists look bad. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:12, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Via RT: -- Petri Krohn (talk) 06:40, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ukraine turmoil LIVE UPDATES
 * Tuesday, February 25 – 05:42 GMT:
 * ''The suspected shooter of Ukrainian journalist Vyacheslav Veremyi, of the local Vesti newspaper, has been arrested, reported the paper, quoting MP Pyotr Poroshenko.
 * ''Veremyi died of a gunshot wound in the chest after masked men attacked him last Tuesday on the way home in Mikhailovskaya Street in central Kiev.


 * Ah! They got an ID and an arrest? I'm curious about the details, considering the management change and all. Shot on the way home they say. That's consistent with targeting. I was wondering if he was out investigating them at the time and saw something they didn't want reported. But maybe his job is unrelated. --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:26, 25 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Vesti.au report on it (Google Translates poorly) "On Wednesday evening (in a place, attackers) with bats attacked Vyacheslav Veremyya and IT specialist editorial Alexei Lыmarenko ." Another line says "Machine -?- and -?- -?- grenades. Taxi Driver and Alexei -?- of cars and -?- -?-" Needs work. --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Patterns
First pass, general: Feb. 18 had the most interesting shootings and deaths, while the 20th had the greatest number and randomness. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:12, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Cops Killed Early: The interesting day, the 18th ... note the 11 killed policemen have no death dates. They are, or tend to be, the 18th. It's not clear of the listed 11 is the whole list of slain police officers. The bulk of riots on the 20th injured, burned, beat, and captured police in huge numbers. It's hard to imagine no more getting killed, but this RT report of the 19th suggests only one of these 11 died after that first night:
 * Twenty-six people were killed overnight in the most violent clashes yet to have occurred between security forces and protesters since the opposition took to the streets of Kiev in November 2013. Ten of the casualties are Ukrainian police officers, who died of gunshot wounds, as did the rest of the victims, the Interior Ministry reported.

Further, he explained it must be "violent protesters" since “police officers and interior troops do not use fire arms. Law enforcers are only using non-lethal weapons." This was apparently true, at least until they were coming under fire like this. On the 19th, apparently, it was decided police would again be armed and authorized to fire in self-defense. Trapped! If false-flag provocateur snipers were responsible for crimes pinned on the state, the allegation part could not work on the 18th nearly as well as it did on the 20th. With this cop-killing provocation, it seems, guns were tricked into the authorities' hands, and just as quickly, those guns were blamed for beautiful young people punctured on the Maidan, just as planned.--Caustic Logic (talk) 13:17, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Urs has done some more digging and found descriptions for the videos showing burning busses and intimidated passengers - those were apparently counter-protesters from Crimea on their way home on the 20th. Even more interesting is a (German) translation of an interview in a video already deleted (youtube account deleted due to "several reports" of copyright issues, of course). Counter-protesters who drove to Kyiv on the 17th and arrived in the morning of the 18th for a demonstration in the Mariinsky Park on the other side of the government buildings, maybe 300m east of the lower right corner of your map. They say a huge mob attacked them around 11 am, threw Molotow cocktails, stones, pepper spray etc, and after "the guys from Berkut" tried to protect them, some in the mob started to shoot. The interviewee says s/he saw "5 people killed", unclear if police or counter-protesters. --CE (talk) 12:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Mapping the Events
The yellow circle by the October Palace is the big "rotary phone dial" clock from early in the 40-minute video. 4:00 if accurate. The action then runes southeast up the Instyutska towards the apparent seat of Ukraine's government. Behind them, the Maidan, overlooked by the hotel (among other things) where protesters were shot dead on the 20th. Thanks to CE for initial tips and Wikimpaia markings. When we identify areas of interest in a broader or narrower zone, different maps might be made. --Caustic Logic (talk) 14:07, 26 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The Ukraine hotel is where Maidan snipers were said to be stationed. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 23:20, 26 February 2014 (UTC)