Talk:Alleged Chemical Attack, August 21, 2013/Locations/Moadamiyah

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October 2013
Something is happening. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 23:03, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * 1,500 evacuated from Damascus surburs as major opposition group rejects Geneva-2 – RT, October 13, 2013
 * ''The Syrian Arab Red Crescent (SARC) said in a statement on its Facebook page that people were evacuated amid the fierce clashes in Moadamiyet al-Sham, west of the Syrian capital.
 * ''The civilians, most of whom were women and children, were safely relocated into shelters in the countryside near Damascus, the group added.
 * ''Local media quoted by Xinhua said the evacuation came after the Syrian army opened routes for civilians to leave the suburban hotspot. SARC sent its volunteers to get the people out to a safe place.

From Syriangirl Partisan:
 * ''Syrian forces and Insurgents have cooperate to allow civilians to evacuate Al Mouadamiya via ceasefire brokered by mother Agnès-mariam de la Croix and her team of nuns. Zionist propgandanist Michael Weiss claimed men were not allowed to leave, perhaps he was remembering what US forces did to Fallujah in 2004. Its terrible the civilians had to leave their homes in the first place but they will return when the Army has made the area safe for them. Surely First time ive seen a half decent non secterian report from AlJazeera, though they had to add their poison at the end. I smiled at 1:10 where a sunni girl ran over and held hands with a nun.


 * Short ceasefire saves lives near Damascus – Published on Oct 30, 2013
 * ''Moudamiya is a besieged suburb on the outskirts of Damascus. It is completely surrounded by Syrian forces - and the opposition say thousands face starvation. Some people have managed to leave the area during a brief ceasfire. Al Jazeera's Imran Khan has this report.

Mother Agnes gives some more information about the Moadamiyah incident in her interview with Sharmine Narwani.


 * Question from Twitter user ‏‪@Net_News_Global‬: "Ask her, if she thinks, that there was, besides murderous propaganda, a real CW attack."


 * "We have witnesses and ‘social sensors’ everywhere in Damascus. Until today we have received 88 claims of death in Moadamiya (from the August 21 attack). We are told they were not killed because of sarin, that they were killed because of heavy shelling from the army and from suffocation from heavy shelling. The deceased were together in a shelter and they suffocated from this. Moadamiya people told us this."

She goes on to express doubts about the deaths in east Ghouta as (in contrast to Moadamiya) her team has no confirmation from there that anyone has lost a relative.

Her statement that people were suffocated in a shelter is consistent with earlier suggestions by Petri and CL I think. But it's surprising that local residents are still prepared to blame the suffocation on SAA shelling, and not to suspect that the victims might have been set up to be shown as sarin victims. Pmr9 (talk) 11:50, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Interesting twist - they suffocated in a shelter. Doesn't sound quite right of course, considering how it lines up with all these other mass chemical-suffocation deaths. Another half-truth story like perhaps the Gavlak-Ababnieh (sp) story? I don't like those. I wonder why the other half of the truth had to be elsewhere, where that is, and what completely different scenario appears when the halves are seen together? Mother Agnes is receiving these claims it was government shelling that suffocated people there? That seems strange. Of course in Moadamiyeh, whoever was shelling did so with that ancient artillery shell Syria's military probably doesn't use anymore. And it has all these oddities about poisoning the people who there (on testing day anyway), but not the environment or the shells themselves. Hmmm... --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:15, 4 December 2013 (UTC)