Talk:MacDonald email leak

AJ gets congratulations
From: Furst, Eugene P CIV (US)  Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013, at 2:14 PM To: AJMacDonald Subject: Follow-up, 20130820

By the way, saw your latest success, my congratulations. Good job.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/syrian-activists-accuse-government-o=f-deadly-chemical-attack-near-damascus/2013/08/21/aea157e6-0a50-11e3-89fe-a=bb4a5067014_story.html

Regards,

-Gene

Response
From: AJMacDonald  Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:31 PM To: Furst, Eugene P CIV (US) Subject: Re: Follow-up, 20130820

As you see I'm far from this now, but I know our guys did their best.

Sincerely, Jamie

Wives chatting
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:59:42 -0700 From: jjlmgmac@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Let's talk To: maryshapiro@hotmail.com

Hi Mary; I saw it either and got afraid very much. But Tony comforted me. He said the kids weren't hurt, it was done for cameras. So you don't worry, my dear.

Jennifer

Response
Good Morning Jennifer:

You see, I'm still thinking about those Syrian kids. Thanks God, they are alive. I hope they got a kind of present or some cash.

Analysis
I do not think these people really know anything. They just assume – like EVERYBODY ELSE – that the rebels did it. They then go on to congratulate themselves for the good work.

The wife is lying. Of course the hostage children were killed. They are just trying to comfort themselves and avoiding guilt.

If this is really what all the US people THINK, then it puts the criminality of the US "assessment" on a new level. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 02:16, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I disagree. If those mails are genuine they are quite telling. I added the relevant bits from the other mail conversation. Those guys are Military Intelligence. AJ was a higher up at Defense Intelligence Agency as he outlines earlier to the other guy, and that is apparently where he is "far away from now" but knows that "our guys did their best". And the wives are quite specific as well. Remember the video where they showed one girl in several positions and the people at the pile of children talking about how they arrange it for the camera? The unnaturally blown-up number of children in that Government "assessment"? We shouldn't write off that especially the children scenes were staged, and that can mean they were "just" drugged and are indeed alive. --CE (talk) 09:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


 * LinkedIn profile for Anthony J MacDonald Quite impressive. Last job until July this year: Director of Operations and Plans, G-2, Department of the Army Staff. Before that, all kinds of "War on Terror" Task Force stuff and high-level HUMINT collection and coordination. --CE (talk) 11:01, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * "In Transition at United States Army!" – Does this mean he was kicked out of his previous position? Or is it that his new position is too secret to be publicly announced? -- Petri Krohn (talk) 16:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Off topic: funny things happen when I search Google for In Transition United States Army – I get this paid advertisement:


 * Ad related to In Transition United States Army
 * Democratic Transitions‎
 * www.ndi.org/‎
 * Learn how NDI helps countries transitioning to democracy:‎
 * Kind of explains everything :-) Petri Krohn (talk) 16:49, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Surprise - another case of juicy, titillating hacked e-mails blaming Western elites directly for running false flag ops with chemicals to get the war started, and I find myself skeptical. BritAm isn't involved, but it's reminiscent. If it's true, cool, smoking gun. I hope to see the proof. If it's debunked, one of us called it. If it's never cleared up any more than this, or just denied (they would of course) I guess we could run with it, but I think it's more likely fake. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:49, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Reaction

 * Fiction, Fact Or Scandal Of Epic Proportions? – Tyler Durden / Zero Hedge, 09/02/2013
 * EXCLUSIVE: Pentagon may be involved in chemical attack in Syria, US intelligence colonel hacked mail reflect – Hackers News Bulletin

Has anyone READ the emails?

 * US defense contractors were involved in Syria gas attack: Investigative journalist – PressTV, Sept 7, 2013
 * Silverman said that he has read many anonymously hacked military emails between Anthony James MacDonald, a retired colonel who works for a Colorado-based defense contractor named TechWise, a DoD employee and others, revealing the role of TechWise and former DoD officials in planning the chemical attack in Syria.


 * The emails “that all connect to the region” even show those involved congratulating each others for their success in a recent operation, then linking to “a Washington Post article that implicates the regime in Syria as having been responsible which obviously is not the case based on the information that we now have,” the journalist added.

I admit I've only read the excerpts provided. This guy's assessment makes it sound like about the same throughout. I'm with Tyler wondering "fact, fiction, or scandal of epic proportions?" With the last and first options the same, and considering what I've seen and the lack of corroboration, I still lean to the middle option. From a position of some ignorance. --Caustic Logic (talk) 13:52, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I only read "the best" assuming that other important clues would have been mentioned. This sounds interesting, though, guess i'll take a look later. Has there been the promised follow-up with the other allegedly hacked email accounts? --CE (talk) 14:12, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I still have not been able to open the  files in Linux. Maybe I will try this. Problem is, I don't even have Evolution configured. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 22:33, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I told Outlook (which I wouldn't use if you paid me for it but won't go away) to leave the stuff alone and just opened it with a text editor. You'll get to see the html and/or some weird steering commands, but you'll get the gist of it. --CE (talk) 22:57, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Evolution did not work. Another tip says Mozilla Thunderbird can open .eml files. Installed Thunderbird. Shit! I cannot even create a dummy account without connecting to a email server. In fact the moment I wrote my email address @iki.fi Thunderbird started connecting to all known name servers. NSA must love the fireworks. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 23:49, 8 September 2013 (UTC)