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Source
I made I Google image search to find the original source of the image. Here is one "activist" page where it appears on May 3rd. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 22:49, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Bayda Katliamı-Banyas
 * I'm checking too, not deeply, but with the Arabic spelling "عمر بياسي" But I didn't find much of use, but some other images, videos, etc. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:39, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is some material on the page I had not seen before, but I did not want to post it on the talk page, as I thought you had seen all this. Here is a photo of the tree burnt men. We should upload it to this site, if it is not here already. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 17:22, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Little if anything there was new to me, other than Omar seen on May 3. That was new. The charred men image is mentioned and linked, and I'm saving these all on my computer. But I was hesitant to upload it and others for a few minor reasons. Mainly it's not necessary, but still it might help to have and show it here. --Caustic Logic (talk) 02:57, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Side-notes
(prone to movement - or just copying unless space becomes an issue here stop typing). --Caustic Logic (talk) 14:40, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Side-notes: A May 4 posting, SyrianArmyFree.com forum. Text translated: "the martyr Sheikh Omar Biasi Mokhtar Al Beida / killed because named Omar or is it the filter to family Biassi?!" Responses: "Where Sefer these criminals with all this blood from God?" - "I am God and him Raaaaaaaajon God bless Yashik And Hvek in your family God avenged his God avenged him O avenged him." Now that is some fucking research, and with it the thread on the murder of a pro-government imam was considered resolved. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:39, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I tried to get a better translation for the comment, but Google is unable to translate this word: "البياسي". Google search on the word or name brings some interesting leads. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 04:29, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey, check this out:
 * Coordinating body of the Syrian revolution
 * Sheikh Omar Biasi killed yesterday in the village of al-Bayda, who Kill Sheikh شبيحة wife the system and we have photos to prove this
 * This picture shows the person who killed him
 * This picture shows Sheikh Omar Biasi before killing
 * This picture shows other.The the Syrian regime on the novel of the killing of Sheikh Omar Biasi

G-translated from this Facebook entry, May 2 10:30 PM my time, so... I think May 3, 9 AM Syria time? And they say "yesterday.' They have photos they never shared, before he was killed, with his killer, after killed. That is some investigative "citizen journalism" that is. Why never share?  --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:56, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The source they cited: May 2, time unclear, likely not much before the other. The picture message from B-N-N (Baniyas News network?), which they too cite, doesn't seem to be from Facebook. I'm not sure what their platform is and if the original is accessible.No link is given. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Sheikh Omar and Biassi Politics
See our spot for exploring the semi-famous disturbances from the dawn of the syrian chaos. Authorities busted up whatever they were doing, and at least s;ightly abused them openly on video. One young Ahmad Biassi is singled out for heroification, apparently went on to fight with theFSA where he was shot dead in Aleppo in the fall of 2012.
 * April 2011 (forthcoming)

Two links from mid-April 2011, same or similar content, with the name Biassi. April14: http://www.syriakurds.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23717 April 12? http://www.odabasham.net/show.php?sid=44687: "Arrests made against dozens of Syrian citizens, and knew them: Said Osman - Abdul Razzaq al-Zeer (60 years) - Ahmed Zaator - Mohamed Adnan Biasi ..." It goes on and on, dozens of names, most of them familiar to me - al-Shoghri, Taha, Tyba, Hamouda, Othman, Yassin, Qaddour, Daaboul, Nmoura, Lolo, all appear, names that would later appear for the two massacres in 2013. Many Biassis, but not sheikh Omar that I see - there's one Mohammad Omar Biasi (a son?), and also the ill-fated Mohammed Mustafa Biasi. What the hell is going on here? Another page lists people arrested by "the regime" including many of these, with 16 Biassis listed. None of these early sources seem to mention sheikh Omar. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Abdul Qader Al Zeer tells on his former collaborators, headed by "Lance" al-Shoghry and one "Abu Ali Biassi." and a home of a "Sheikh Lance Aarot" - explosives were brought, rifles and pistols, from Lebanon. He was paid as a driver. "our warehouse was down Rahman Mosque." Launched an "emirate" with "Lance Aarot led as head of the emirate to be the Minister of the Interior lance الشغري and Defense Minister Abu Ali Biasi." Zeer and several others of familiar families drove explosives to the refinery and the thermal station, deployedto be blown upon the orders of the ministers. He got paid. End of excerpt. --Caustic Logic (talk) 14:27, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * May 23, 2011 Syrian television yesterday broadcast confessions ... Banias ... cells of terrorist acts and sabotage....

12:00 - stamens battalions burned car Sheikh Omar Biasi, and continue to spread the heavy elements with stamens militias continued a campaign of raids and arrests 21:00 - 21:00 - Banias | | arrested the stamens Mr. battalions of Mustafa Biassi and Abdel Sweida and Mohamed Biasi, and Omar Sakr, coincided with the arrest of Juma Mohammed Saqr and Ahmed Ali Nmorh (Sweide "Sweden" is another massacre name) --Caustic Logic (talk) 14:27, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * December 5, 2011, odd day


 * April 3, 2013, a month before he was killed, one Omar Biassi himself spoke on an online forum about how to handle the crisis, with dialog. (sounds like about what he says in the video, but I didn't have a date for that). Another commentor here agrees with him. Translation later. --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * May 2, 2013
 * Bridge orchards on Banias Highway - Tartous, amid talk about the killing of Sheikh Omar Biasi, his son and his wife, following the spread of news about his mediation in negotiations between the parties. As usual when you get the assassination of figures calling for national unity and the renunciation of violence, the exchange regime and the opposition accusations over his death. --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Days of the Crisis

 * SyriaTruth
 * "Three days ago (April 31?), the oldest gunmen targeting an army checkpoint in the area, prompting the army and security services to do on the first Wednesday (May 1) and on Thursday a (May 2) campaign combing raids inside the village, "Beida" ...


 * Islam Syria, May 6
 * ... invasion of Banias and white and began boots artillery from land and sea bombardment since the morning of Wednesday, 21.06.1434 and 01.05.2013 and income shabeeha screaming oh revenge Hussein ... Having killed the men and young boys, entered into people's homes, killing harem and children," killing 4-500. 
 * on the second day (May 2?) entered the village of orchards (Basateen, just north of Bayda) and demolished Msadjadaha, and killed some people and arrested dozens, then beat artillery neighborhood of Ras spring in Banias, Fahadmoa three groves, then entered the neighborhood, and slaughtered with knives and machetes nearly 255 breath to see shoutingYa Hussein, Ya Hussein, ...
 * on the second day (May 2?) entered the village of orchards (Basateen, just north of Bayda) and demolished Msadjadaha, and killed some people and arrested dozens, then beat artillery neighborhood of Ras spring in Banias, Fahadmoa three groves, then entered the neighborhood, and slaughtered with knives and machetes nearly 255 breath to see shoutingYa Hussein, Ya Hussein, ...


 * http://montada.echoroukonline.com/archive/index.php/t-236656.html
 * On the morning of the following day Friday 03/05/2013 Began a sweep of the Lot region Beida agricultural and arrow and Sea region, where the survivors of the massacre Beid'a had fled.

Mustafa Biassi Kidnapped May 1?
And this (straight google translate, sorry), further challenging our narrow old timeline - by the evening of May 1 sheikh Omar was detained by a patrol and in danger:
 * Mr. Mustafa Ali's arrest Biasi by a patrol had been present on the bridge groves Islam at the age of nearly 50 years We ask God vulva him and all detainees Facebook, May 1, 7:46 PM local, I think. --Caustic Logic (talk) 13:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Add ten hours, making that 6:46 PM local time. This source and this on Facebook pass on about the same details: "barrier bridge groves Islam checkpoint with a car belonging to the security forces and lose arrest Mustafa Biasi." The Facebook one adds reports of audible gunfire "from villages pro because of the advent of dead at the hands of the army free (FSA, usually)." The latter is from a few minutes after the above one, but the details differ enough there must be an earlier source for both.


 * Not him, but his son, I guess. Aged "near 50" to Omar's 63 - at 18 he could have a first son then 45. Taken by regime forces, entangling the imam in securing releases and getting killed instead, by evening May 1, EVEN BEFORE that Shabiha raid early on May 2. Wow. Not likely made up. Too sure to be a guess, and too accurate. Apparently Mustafa Ali Biassi did not survive his captivity, and rebels were able to document what seem like him (middle name Ali not specified) as one of the martyrs. Alongside him, "regime forces" killed his wife (some of her relatives too it seems) and I guess their daughter Obaid, and her unnamed daughter, age 3. The big Arab Worlds victim list:
 * 103 - Mustafa Biasi and his wife ( مصطفى بياسي و زوجته )
 * 104 - Amina Hamouda (wife of Mustafa Biasi) ( امينة حمودة ( زوجة مصطفى بياسي ) )
 * 105 - Obaid Mustafa Biasi, daughter ( عبيد مصطفى بياسي وابنته )
 * 106 - Daughter of Obaid Mustafa Biasi ( ابنة عبيد مصطفى بياسي 3 شهور )
 * --Caustic Logic (talk) 14:40, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Or is it rather the SCDV's Moustafa Ahmad Ibrahim Bayyasi or Mohmammad Mousatafa Ali Bayyasi? On the big list, we have 27- Mohammed Mustafa Ali Biasi, 28- Aisha Qaddour (wife, with relatives, see below), 29 - Ali Mustafa Ali Biasi, 30 - Mohammed Mustafa Ali Biasi (babies both), 31 - (blank) 32 - Ibna Mustafa Ali Biasi (girl, age not given) . Not as likely. At "near 50" he's likely too old to be having babies, though his wife's unknown age is more relevant, and the older child(ren)'s age is unknown. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Eldest son is just possible, but he's not listed that way anywhere. Might be a brother, or other. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:40, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If a son, his middle name would be Omar, as the list seems to work otherwise. This must be a brother or other relative. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:17, 24 July 2013 (UTC)


 * This Facebook page, and the associated YouTube channel may be an early, if not the original source of the massacre videos. If so, it is interesting how the Baniyas and al-Baida videos appear on the same channel. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 00:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Banias News Portal is one of the Facebook pages that also seems extra well-informed. Saving as I go in case they start deleting evidence. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I have now cleaned up and reordered my al Baida YouTube playlist by upload date. It is interesting how they had a "full analysis of the massacre" online already on May 2nd! -- Petri Krohn (talk) 00:28, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Excellent, will have a look. It occurred to me the times all need more careful consideration, especially if possible times as well as dates. I'm not as quick with that as you, by the way, and probably won't be trying it soon, but if you have some time, all those cited so far under events timeline would be important to get more precise with. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Other Family
Photo: Hamza Biassi, dead - an Omar son as listed around. Hamza alive, I think. He was a medical student, they say. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:40, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Not shot, stab wound in the middle of his chest. (Note the cut in the shirt.) -- Petri Krohn (talk) 23:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought too. Probably from "warplane shelling" if they were being rigorous. But they wanted to acknowledge "field execution" here. One Facebook posting of the Hamza photo, June 16 --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Call to Arms
Along the way on the one Facebook page, I saw this and wanted to save it. Quickly marshalled propaganda urging jihad on the coast, poster early on May 3
 * Coordinating body of the Syrian revolution: Aliki wrote O Iyanjas, at the beginning of the revolution more than two years ago to be a fuel to ignite this revolution. Do you also wrote on you to be a fuel you that ignite front coast? God Derek O proud For the walls of heroes defeat the hordes of tyrants.

Pictured: jihasists across the road, above, as if continuous, an old WWII-era photo of the crusader castle at Maqrab, in the middle of the SW Baniyas hinterland. Across the middle, Arabic text. At the top corners, Jabhat al-Nusra/Al-Qaeda in Syria flag. --Caustic Logic (talk) 09:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)