Talk:Jisr Al-Shughour massacre

Great work on this so far! This is a real monster of a story I never really heard clearly about. --Caustic Logic 21:12, 20 September 2012 (EST)
 * Thanks, same with me. Stumbled across a link to the SANA article in a blog article about mutilations the "rebels" commit these days, and thought "how the hell could I have missed this event?" And yesterday's research showed that it is a crucial event indeed, with the advantage of some good after-the-event stuff as it happened "so long" ago. Have the story halfway outlined in my head, including sticking it to Chulov ... maybe I get to continue it today, but likely not. Stay tuned... :D --CE 21:49, 20 September 2012 (EST)

Uthman
He said “I’m going to tell you what happened, even at the cost of damaging the cause of the revolution,” in a token manner, pleading to a much lesser crime, in effect, at the lowest possible and basically no cost to the cause of the revolution, he re-brands the massacre at the Post Office. Yes, the protest had guns, yes, they wound up getting fired towards the postoffice, but y'see... (rolleyes) --Caustic Logic 21:18, 20 September 2012 (EST)

Orontes River
Liking a link to a story I know, I wondered about the Orontes river dump mentioned. The video I was thinking of was however circulating in early August. Great article here with most of what we'd need for a page on that. Same video, however, at Infowars and mentioned by CNN by July 4 at the latest. So maybe... --Caustic Logic 21:12, 20 September 2012 (EST) And then I remember we're even talking a whole different year here ... you got all historical on us. No wonder I didn't hear about this, wasn't even following Syria last year. --Caustic Logic 21:23, 20 September 2012 (EST) And then noticing the story (first link) is from 2011. Okay, sorry. I'll stop now. --Caustic Logic 21:24, 20 September 2012 (EST)
 * The Orontes River also flows through Tremseh... --CE 21:49, 20 September 2012 (EST)
 * Yep, and as I presume we've noted, some fifty bodies of 'farmers killed by the regime' were fished out and, in some counts, added to the tally of the big massacre there.  --Caustic Logic 22:27, 2 October 2012 (EST)

Blurb
How about this (from re-reading the intro,still hazy on the details)
 * Idilb province, June, 2011: Around 120 security personnel and an unknown number of civilians, especially postal workers, were killed by rebel fighters, and/or their own comrades, and/or mobs of civilians. They were reportedly killed either for trying to defect to the rebel side, for marauding in the town as rebels in uniform filmed themselves doing, or for simply geting in the way of the rebel agenda.  --Caustic Logic 22:24, 2 October 2012 (EST)
 * Not bad, should be added that this created the first refugee wave to Turkey ... yes, yes, I know i've been slacking with this, will finish soon ... promised ... yesterday Houla distracted me. --CE 22:32, 2 October 2012 (EST)
 * No rush, AFIC. I think blank spaces can spur others (not me, booked) to help fill them in. We just need more not me's. :) --Caustic Logic 22:36, 2 October 2012 (EST)

Significance Notes
Not touching the front page, but wnting to see this page develop, I suggest a section for explaining the significance of the event, helping establish effect/motive (if predicatable) aspect as a clue. There's the refugee crisis (of what type of people? Etc.) One small thing I saw was the event's distinction by the BBC as a landmark moment (see their graph) of the death toll up to this May 29 2012 article. Only three events are given reference lines - "Jisr al-Shughur Fighting," June, then the Homs bombardment of February 2012, then UN mission in April. Implied at the end with a shudder, Al-Houla. Since then, whoo boy. --Caustic Logic 20:15, 21 October 2012 (EST)
 * I'll tackle this today - finally. The videos I just added were re-uploaded by this new account, 91 vids uploaded in the last days, many potentially relevant - also about Houla but I didn't make it there yet. List deserves scrutiny. --CE 20:24, 21 October 2012 (EST)