Talk:Crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17/Cyber Berkut leak

Doubts
The Cyber Berkut did provide the Paet-Ashton call that was legit, but this I'm far more skeptical of. Not to be overly flippant, but a first blush is just a first blush ... it seems a bit heavy on the clowning around like idiots - smacks of parody, which is a creative work, which this isn't supposed to be. "have you forgotten? We are sooper seekrit on Facebook 'k! more false-flag chat later ttul" And they complain the video was uploaded early ... is that a reference to one of those Youtube issues Russians often don't get? Did this pan out or not? Did these perps also just not get it then? Possible. --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

And what is this? "They reported that he couldn't hold there for long, as if it was high. Made one direct. Failed. Had to make air." I'm not sure I understand any of this, really. But that almost sounds like the insiders are saying there was a failed "direct" missile attack, followed by a last-minute attack from the air. As one inclined to think a successful missilie launch broght the plane down, these do not sound to me like informed insiders but fake personae employing current "CT" talking points on top of their clowning. --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I think Dimity Orlov got it right the first time: If the Ukrainians tried to hit it with a Buk they would miss! -- Petri Krohn (talk) 14:35, 12 August 2014 (UTC)