Talk:Turkish Downing of Russian Su-24

To Do

 * incident mapped
 * compared to 2013 helicopter incident - same area
 * Get other info, analyze/talk, etc.

list and address controversies
 * Russian jets in Turkey? In Syria?
 * Turkish jets in Turkey? In Syria?
 * west-east fire?
 * Warning sent? Received?
 * Other --Caustic Logic (talk) 13:40, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Warning Received?
As a precedent, consider Iran Air flight 655 (IR655), blown up on July 3, 1988 by US warship. Iran Air had a policy to use a different channel than usual for emergency hailing, for whatever reason - the US claimed not to know that, the USS Vincennes used the usual frequency to warn the airliner before shooting at it, sent an unheard warning, and got no response. Seemed hostile. And they somehow didn't see the flight in their daily registry (it was there), and so followed up on their clusterfuck of inexplicable bad readings of good data, and opened fire with 2 missiles, killing about 300 civilians. In both cases, the people on the other end say/would say they never heard any warning and it felt more like an ambush. --Caustic Logic (talk) 13:40, 26 November 2015 (UTC)