Talk:Irma Krat's flash drive

Pravy Sector kill list

 * http://vk.com/wall-62043361_131230

Back-Story
I'm not even sure what's being alleged here. A police chief slaughtered, his wife raped, I gather. I read there was recently a shakeup with the Donetsk police chief, one resigning by protester demand, another replacing him. Is this the old one or the new? Is Pravi Sector killing an enemy hoping to frame Russian-types, killing their ally for the same reason, Russian pretending to be PS, pretending or not to be someone else? Okay, just which chief is a good start. Apparently he hasn't turned up alive yet? There were claims this is all fake, and the blood looked a bit questionable. But now that I see the wound, it looks less fake for sure. Still possible, somewhat. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


 * There are two aspects to the story:
 * A snuff video exists. Is it real or fake? In fact we now have two videos with footage from both the A and B cameras. (Do snuff video producers use film industry terminology, like A and B camera?)
 * The back story, as relayed on anti-Maida and anti-fascist web sites is that Pravy Sector created the video and uploaded it on one of their social media sites (I assume VK). This was quickly taken down, but someone managed to download a copy that is now circulating. For evidence of this I would also like to see a screenshot of the Pravy Sector account with the video.
 * Creating videos like this as tools of terror is not new, we have seen thousands in Syria. Pravy Sector is yet another US sponsored terror group like the ones producing similar footage in Syria. It is thus quite possible that they would emulate methods found effective Syria. And if you were to ask Anthony Cartalucci or Stan Winer they would point to a 60 year history of US sponsored terror. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 18:28, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

From Wikipedia: Dnepropetrovsk maniacs
 * ''The Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (Ukrainian: Дніпропетровські маніяки, Russian: Днепропетровские маньяки) are the killers responsible for a string of murders in Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine in June and July 2007. The case gained additional notoriety because the killers made video recordings of some of the murders, with one of the videos leaking to the Internet. Two 19‑year-old locals, Viktor Sayenko (Ukrainian: Віктор Саєнко, Russian: Виктор Саенко) and Igor Suprunyuck (Ukrainian: Ігор Супрунюк, Russian: Игорь Супрунюк), were arrested and charged with 21 murders.

-- Petri Krohn (talk) 19:20, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

General
This won't look good next to the Yarosh business cards thing. Which, I notice, has made him the presidential candidate with the coolest calling card around, just a month ahead of elections. How about his armbands connected to a high-profile murder-rape? Many will be anti-convinced by this. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Press

 * Durísimas imágenes: Nazis ucranianos le cortan el cuello al ex jefe de la policía de Donetsk delante de su esposa – La Republica, 18 April 2014

Video
Now on LiveLeaks:
 * Ukranian fascist rebels from Right Sector movement killing ex-head of Donetsk police in front of his wife
 * ''Ukrainian fascists from Right Sector party killing ex-head of Donetsk police in front of his wife for non protecting anti-Russian rallies in Donetsk from raged pro-Russian city citizens