User talk:Ormond

RE: Assault on Ras Al-Ayn

2012-11-30 ASIA/SYRIA - A young Christian of the opposition: "Minorities crushed in the conflict" http://www.fides.org/aree/news/newsdet.php?idnews=32775&lan=eng

2012-11-23 ASIA/SYRIA - Christians in high Mesopotamia refuse to take up arms. Bishops' appeal to the Pope and the leaders of Nations: avoid the catastrophe that is upon us http://www.fides.org/aree/news/newsdet.php?idnews=32723&lan=eng


 * I'm not sure how to start the right page to include these related FIDES reports on. But I did think about it a little, and a space or some related spaces to cover persecution of non-Sunnis, the refugee crisis and religious makeup of it, the infamous and now-banned chant "Christians to Beirut and Alawites to the Grave," etc. The best page would be one that covers it all, with many sub-sections and eventually hard to read all in one sitting.  --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Welcome!
Hello Ormond, thanks for your contribution and welcome to the wiki! The article needs some follow-up and that witness testimony in your younger link is very useful. There are also a couple of videos, especially about the early days, waiting for a closer look on the talk page of the article. I'll see when I find time for that, but you're of course also welcome to contribute directly to articles (or create new ones). On the Community portal page are some tips about how to deal with the software, in case you aren't familiar with it. :o) --CE (talk) 20:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Greetings, Ormond! Adam/Caustic Logic here. I'll probably let CE handle incorporation of that - it's mostly her page and I'm booked today too. Unless you want to try - external links are made [|like so]. We really appreciate new members. You're the first real one since us first three months ago. Let us know if you have any questions or anything. If you only contribute that, better than nothing, but please feel free to pour your mind out here. We don't have a page for persecution of Christians yet (or for Alawites, etc.) Do you think we should start one? Maybe I will later tonight. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:40, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Links come through automatically? Did I know that? I'm the part-time self-appointed clown here. I'll just go get some work done now. Thanks again for the join. Also, don't feel too put on the spot in being member #4. Many others have almost joined, I presume, so it would be unfair to put you on any hook just for stepping a little further in than they did.  --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Adam. Sorry for the long delay in replying I did try before and lost all of the text I had typed I should have tried again and not left it so long. I really appreciated your kind words, your welcome and above all else your diligent work, I most certainly think there is enough information for a page on Sectarianism in the Syrian conflict, does anyone here in this wiki ever undertake any primary research as in speaking directly to some of the people who's issues are dealt with?. I would love to be able to contribute but lack the skill to be able to manage within a wiki page like this. but as and when I see information I think is relevant I will post it in here if you think that is suitable.

Ormond! No problem with the big delay, but good to hear from you. No, we don't do any talking to people not already published. We would, but no special channels, little time to develop them, no one's written to us, and it can be more tricky - you're responsible for sharing their story without endangering them. Which can be done. For future reference, two things. You can sign your entries with the 2nd button from right on the control panel. It looks like dashes until you hit Save Page (feel free to try it on your comment - no signing is necessary, but it's better, even if it's not really the right time). And if your last comment loss was from "lost session data" or whatever, usually just hitting Save Page a second time (more quickly) will publish it just fine. I will now start a sectarianism page, but it's a broad issue, and won't be a comprehensive overview for some time probably. A place for some links to pages we have, at least. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:04, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your response I am sure I can provide info for the "Sectarian" page but lack the capability to lay it out in the way others here can. Is there another way of sending you links in here or should I just pop into this page and post them here?

With reference to the Jabhat Al-Nusra page it may make an interesting addition to add a reference to this Hindu Times of India article which claims that "This threat has not developed suddenly. Indeed the U.S. has been fully aware of the presence of al-Qaeda in the so-called Free Syrian Army since April 20, 2011 when Jihadis captured a truck (or Armoured Personnel Carrier) near Dera’a, and killed all the 18 or 20 soldiers it was carrying not by shooting them but by cutting their throats in the approved Islamic manner. A few days later, the U.S. ambassador in Syria, Robert Ford, called some of his colleagues in Damascus, including the Indian ambassador, and told them that al-Qaeda had arrived in Syria." http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/looming-clouds-of-destruction/article4214346.ece?homepage=true

--Ormond (talk) 23:28, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Page created. I'm out of time for now, so feel free to try adds. Copy THIS format for a link (not the wrong one above):

[http://www.fides.org/aree/news/newsdet.php?idnews=32723&lan=eng ASIA/SYRIA - Christians in high Mesopotamia refuse to take up arms. Bishops' appeal to the Pope and the leaders of Nations: avoid the catastrophe that is upon us] Or I'll do it after work. I've seen that article, but not sure that incident is Nusrah or some other Islamo-nihilists. Late 2011 is the accepted appearance date, but it could be earlier. At least a year to get so ingrained that no paper pronouncement is coming close to stopping them --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, and don't worry about format. Hopefully you'll pick it up (by copying or the tips in the community portal) but until then we can fix it up. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:44, 15 January 2013 (UTC)