File:IgorGirkin BUK.jpg

BUK on Karapetyan street, Snezhnoe, allegedly on July 17, 2014
 * Location
 * 48° 1′ 1.0014″N 38° 45′ 20.25″E
 * Time
 * The house is at an angle 237 degrees.
 * The angle of the shadow relative to the building is about 40 degrees or 197 degrees from north.
 * Sun azimuth on July 17, 2014 based on NOAA Solar Calculator
 * 09:40 UTC - 184.57
 * 09:50 UTC - 189.69
 * 10:00 UTC - 194.71
 * 10:05 UTC - 197.18
 * 10:10 UTC - 199.61
 * 10:20 UTC - 204.35
 * 10:30 UTC - 208.91
 * Michael Kobs says the time is about 13:45h local time or 10:45 UTC.
 * Source
 * IgorGirkin‏ @GirkinGirkin on Twitter, July 17, 2014 @ 21:27 UTC
 * #Снежное О русских зенитчиках и "Буке" в Снежном "это дом 50 лет октября, в нем пирка, недалеко уголек и фуршет"
 * Analysis
 * How to find the missing Buk system - Korean Defense, JULY 19, 2014
 * Dating the undated “evidence” and showing a broken trail– the Snizhne Buk video - Hector Reban, July 6, 2016
 * MH17: What suggests Ukraine is behind the fake Buk materials - Sergey Mastepanov, August 15, 2016

Discussion
This photo was known for a long while (e.g. in Nov. 2014 on BC). (1) How do we know it is not just photoshop, to begin with? (2) It is more than crystal clear that the poster is no Igor Girkin (ie Strelkov); rather he is somebody of essentially the same twitter-type as wowihay or rescuero/Pavel Aleynikov (is Bengali language used by everyone on wayback machine for time of post references? Hmm.) (3) They tell us it is Snezhnoe on 17 July 2014, but this is a massively typical 5-storey factory-made-large-panel-block house, there is insane number of houses like that throughout the area (there is even a cult comedy movie based on such houses similarities)  ; even if we take only 5 storey ones, near a small houses seen nearby, the count of such will be in (many) hundreds, if not thousands. (Has anybody been there in all those years, or otherwise produced anything more definite--as it is not at all, as it stands, anywhere near convincing) (4) The date, can be any date, up to 17 July, and can well be an earlier day; --quite sunny, apparently, here, FWIW --Resup (talk) 00:58, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

There is also a huge overall bias. All of that photojunk, in the most unfavorable for the pro-Russian case, can only establish that they had a Buk in their possession. --There is a serious doubt that they did, and that it is not one of Ukrainian Buks paraded for camera or outright faked. But in any case, what's at stake here is whether they had it.-- But there is no doubt that Ukrainians had plenty of Buks and could easily deploy them to an area within striking distance of the Boeing. So, from a neutral perspective, at least an equal, or greater, chance it was downed by Ukraine. Yet Ukraine is a party of investigation supplying and relied on for key evidence, while Russia is not part of investigation, her serious evidence (detailed technical investigation by manufacturer, radar data, etc--we are not talking of that shaky stuff mined and spinned from social media or outright fakery here) --is ignored, and her blame all but is a predetermined conclusion. --Resup (talk) 01:44, 18 July 2017 (UTC)