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Where should the arrow lead?
Correction: They are not driving where your arrow goes, that's where the vehicles stand. They are likely driving the road going west, passing the mosque and the river into city center - if they're not making a u-turn. You can see a glimpse of the mosque while they are "roundabouting". --CE 03:23, 24 September 2012 (EST)
 * I think I'm right. Pink-faced building ahead, white facade to the left then a space, low wall and space to the right. Goat to the right, then looking ahead, APCs as they turn left and then right. I'll take a closer look in a bit to be sure, though. --Caustic Logic 07:55, 24 September 2012 (EST)
 * To clarify, I too see the back of the mosque, near that little red-and-yellow graffiti-covered building. And the building on the leftlooks arguably mosque-like, but if coming from the east, you would see the empty lot ahead, not the pink-faced building. Plus there's nodivider on that street as there is here, and earlier they drive in, as usual, through the arches, which means north up main street. --Caustic Logic 10:41, 24 September 2012 (EST)
 * I just realized I might have confused you with the second composite. If 'read' left to right, it seems like you're headed east, looking back at the APCs. But the arrangement is just the best graphic fit, Lower right view is seen first, then a second later the upper left. Follow the yellow arrow and all views are explained in order. :) --Caustic Logic 13:23, 24 September 2012 (EST)
 * Going west you said, sorry. I can be dyslexic like that. So that isn't (wasn't?) the problem. --Caustic Logic 13:40, 24 September 2012 (EST)
 * Sorry for being unclear. Your arrow is right about where they're coming from, and right how they enter the roundabout, but imho wrong about where they drive AFTER the roundabout. Where you draw the arrow going is the road with the military vehicles (more or less blocked), but they keep on roundabouting when the scene is cut. So they either make a u-turn and drive back south, or, most likely, turn "right" out of the roundabout "after" the mosque and take the road going west, across the river to the center (or stay at the mosque). --CE 19:36, 24 September 2012 (EST)
 * Well, that could be. I'm a little unclear about the end, and if the arrow came at the 12:00 on the arc, it'd be for sure accurate. I could update it, or just note it's the general direction of travel to and into the roundabout. I presumeed wherever, they then parked nearby and went to the mosque there. I guess a visual support would help identify this as the main mosque, as I have suspected. And it's useful to finally see what a security post at the roundabout looks like. --Caustic Logic 20:02, 24 September 2012 (EST)
 * I'd shorten the arrow and let it end after a half-circle inside the roundabout, at the military vehicle seen in the sat image, to leave it open where they go after that. --CE 20:08, 24 September 2012 (EST)
 * In fact, it doesn't show where they go after that. It almost seems like they park right there. Checked the other end, as the video starts. They're in front of the hospital,base of the water tower briefly visible on the left. No one shows the hospital itself. Wonder why? --Caustic Logic 21:42, 24 September 2012 (EST)

No more comments. Delete this picture shortly. :)
 * Perfect! :) --CE 22:28, 24 September 2012 (EST)

Hoaxery
Please do not delete any discussions, no matter how irrelevant they may seem. This discussion is not turning out to be highly relevant, as it may provide proof of the hoax discussed here. Besides, this seems to be the correct version anyway. -- Petri Krohn 20:16, 30 September 2012 (EST)

In this case at least, I'm glad it wasn't deleted, but in general... it can be corrected too, if we regret, can't it? --Caustic Logic 21:09, 30 September 2012 (EST)


 * Also, while you might well be onto something, the second one is more accurate. replacement here. A turn to the west, or onto the crumbling bricks anyway, is implied (by the cameraif not the car?). They could go west then north, or north then west, but it is odd how that final stretch is apparently never shown. --Caustic Logic 21:10, 1 October 2012 (EST)


 * It can be restored even if "deleted" and I didn't delete it because of the discussion. And yes, the second image is better; describes what is seen and not what can be (imho wrongly) assumed. The whole report is cut together, so I see no oddity in the scene ending where it does. --CE 21:16, 1 October 2012 (EST)