Talk:Attacks on Clergy in the Syrian Conflict

"Clergy"?
"Clergy" here is not exactly acurate - perhaps a re-direct is in order? For Islam, it's Ulema. Chritian clergy have been killed, # pending. Not sure the best way to say it. Will people find it like this? I guess if the content is what matters most? --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:55, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Seems to be working okay. Ulema/Clergy/etc. --Caustic Logic (talk) 23:44, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Christian
(reverse chronological)

Reverend Fadi Jamil Haddad, October 2012
Reverend Fadi Jamil Haddad, pastor of St Elias Church in Qatana - Killed on or before October 25, 2012 near Damascus, after trying to free someone else held, apparently, by rebels. Greek Orthodox priest killed in Syria Published 29 October 2012 |  ASSIST News Service
 * The body of [Reverend Haddad] was discovered in the Jaramana district of the capital, reported Agenzia Fides, the Vatican news service. The site was not far from the area where he was kidnapped by an "unidentified armed group" last Friday, the agency said. The Vatican agency quoted a colleague as saying the priest had been "horribly tortured".


 * According to the official account, the priest was abducted while seeking the release of another person who had been kidnapped by militants. However, the LA Times said, it was unclear ... The Vatican news agency reported that the priest's kidnappers had demanded a ransom equivalent to about $715,000 for his release. "It was, however, impossible to find the money and meet this exorbitant demand," reported Agenzia Fides.

See also:
 * LA Times blog Oct. 25: Greek Orthodox priest abducted in Syria is found dead

Rev. Basilious Nasser, January 2012
New York Times, January 25, 2012: Syria Chaos Claims Priest and an Aid Group Official
 * The secretary general of the Syrian Arab Red Crescent and a Christian priest have been killed...
 * The priest, from the Greek Orthodox Church, the Rev. Basilious Nasser, was shot and killed on the second day of heavy fighting in the city of Hama. The Syrian state news agency blamed an “armed terrorist group” for the killing, while opposition activists in Hama said the priest was shot by a government sniper.
 * The Red Crescent official, Dr. Abd-al-Razzaq Jbeiro, was shot and killed while traveling on the Halab-Damascus highway in a vehicle that was “clearly marked with the Red Crescent emblem,” according to a statement released by the International Committee of the Red Cross.

Sunni Muslim
(reverse chronological)

Hassan Seifaddine, Aleppo, Mar 30, 2013
SOHR, March 31:
 * Aleppo city: An Imam of a mosque was abducted and then killed by rebels in the eastern Sheikh Maqsoud neighbourhood of Aleppo. Sources in the neighbourhood also state that the body was afterwards dragged and paraded in the neighbourhood. The Imam was from al-Mardliya. He was a supporter of the regime.

Comments clarify the victim was named Hassan Seifaddine. More info perhaps coming.

Saleh1966, Allvoices, March 30: Syrian rebels allegedly behead pro-regime cleric in Aleppo:
 * Syrian activists from Aleppo said that after rebel fighters have taken control of at least part of a strategic Sheik Maqsoud neighborhood in the city of Aleppo, they captured pro-regime Sheikh Hassan Seifeddine, killed him then paraded his body on the streets of Sheik Maqsoud neighborhood.


 * Iran's Press TV as well as SANA news said Sheikh Hassan Seifeddine was beheaded and his head was placed on the minaret of Al-Hassan Mosque, where he used to lead the prayers.


 * The Syrian authorities accused armed "terrorist" groups in Homs for the assassination of Sheikh Hassan Seifeddine, who is a known Assad supporter and regime loyalist.


 * On the other hand, Free Syrian Army denounced the incident and said that it had nothing to do with the killing. FSA accused the Shabiha for this crime, which happened after the liberation of most areas of Aleppo from the regime's control.

Sheikh Al-Bouti, Damascus, Mar 21, 2013
Dr Mohammed Saeed Ramadan al-Bouti, one of the most senior and esteemed Sunni clerics in Syria, world-respected despite his steadfast, normal Syrian support for Syria's government to the end, famously ended on March 21. A reported 52 or likely more were killed alongside him as a suicide bomber detonated himself during an evening lecture in Damascus mosque. Some 80 or more were also injured but survived. Noone claimed responsibility, and everyone explicitly denounced it and blamed someone else.

Sheikh Al-Bouti death video
One or two videos allegedly showing the exploasion that killed Sheikh Al-Bouti have shown up. The Angry Arab dismisses them as fake. Jim Muir for BBC News from Beirut thinks they are real.
 * Syria 'death video' of Sheikh al-Bouti poses questions

Here is one YouTube upload containing two videos from slightly different angles.
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Qfu-3wU_k

The second video is said to be 29 seconds long, but this composition only contains some 18 seconds of it. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 00:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Having looked (at the videos, not the arguments), it seems strange, how little he's clearly hit. But I guess those 52 human shields made a difference. Blood out the mouth, delayed flopping reaction, likely neck pierced as he turned his head was the main thing. I suspect it's real as the blast was and how/when/where the hell would you get such a good actor and set to fake this? Plus he is dead by all accounts. As for the cameramen, un-fazed. Wait ... will chalk that up to the tripods, unless another look says otherwise. --Caustic Logic (talk) 00:02, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 * First video, tripod. Second, maybe. Very steady, but wiggling a little bit. If hand-held, it's significant. No more wiggling than usual as the blast happens, apparently a slight twist-tripods don't do that. Only someone expecting a blast and meaning to stay panned in despite it could do this. So whoever filmed it, and presumably whoever uploaded it, are on the side with people who set this up, and the cameraman knew that. Were they government supporters or rebel suppoerters? --Caustic Logic (talk) 00:09, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The second video is a hand-held shot of an original video playing on some screen. Note the black borders. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 05:12, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Other versions:
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_qRm5s1O9c
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKDZpMSMhG8
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6b1bJzI3Kw
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xkRGOLmT8Y
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV22dh8yfWc
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcRZ7DURcGU
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8ulCWh7UI
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrI8xVATmHs
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSXSFd5lCs8
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8ulCWh7UI
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrI8xVATmHs
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSXSFd5lCs8
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H13_ENBjHxc
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRGT1Lqozd4


 * Proof of the involvement of Syrian intelligence assassination of Sheikh Bouti .. leaked video clip with analysis
 * Did not get what they are saying here. Arabic words, and something pointed out. --Caustic Logic (talk) 00:09, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Al Arabiya:
 * The details of the assassination of Sheikh Bouti

This is interesting, both published on Mar 22, 2013 -- Petri Krohn (talk) 01:26, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Syria Regime Sheikh Al Bouti Flashback - Chased from Mosque by Anti Assad Worshippers
 * Syria Regime Stooge Sheikh Al Bouti Chased from Mosque (stabilized)

Authentic video:
 * Suicide bombing at al-Iman mosque in Damascus إستشهاد الشيخ البوطي


 * Don't know if it's in your links somewhere but there's a statement of the son and father of the two killed Bouti's here. --CE (talk) 03:18, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Sheikh Abdullatif al-Jumaili, Aleppo, Feb. 8, 2013
see Shelling of Salah Eddin Mosque Sheikh Abdullatif al-Jumaili was reportedly shot by an unknown sniper outside his mosque in north-central Aleppo, apparently following someone's mortar attack on the mosque. He was a supporter of the government and rejector of the rebellion.

Shi'ite Muslim
Have there been any specified Shia clergy-types killed? I presume so, but not sure if they really have Imams - Ayatollahs instead, IIRC. And shrines instead of mosques. Most reports mentions mosques and Imams, making them Sunni, I think ? --Caustic Logic (talk) 00:02, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

?? April 12, 2013
April 12, SOHR reports: "An Imam of a mosque was killed by unknown gunmen in the Masaken Hanano neighbourhood." Any further details should go here. --Caustic Logic (talk) 00:02, 14 April 2013 (UTC)