Talk:Al-Houla Before and After the Massacre

Location of April 5th shelling
I found the location of a this video of the April 5th shelling. On the video you can see the minaret of a mosque. The mosque is located on the main street leading east of the clock tower. The camera is facing north along an alley. This alley is 540 meters from the clock tower. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 02:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

The Mosque of the Faith on this video is the same mosque. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 02:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for putting your brain to that, Petri. I could have got it, but hadn't yet. I didn't even watch the mosque video. Does it look the same as this one shown April 6? It might be the building emitting more smoke. And, do you think the two alleys shown are the same? Same basic set-up, but the details seemed different (the one tho is unclear). I'll add the location soon, but first, will google that officer's Arabic name (the given transliteration didn't give any useful hits) --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:48, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * No hits for the officer that I could identify and decipher. Also, the April 6 videos (minaret, different, damaged, interior, dusty Qurans) show a different mosque -at least two then hit in Al-Houla in those two days. Are they Shi'ite then? I don't know if you can tell from these clues or not. --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:10, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I still can't say the alleys are the same, nor that they aren't, so they probably are. The clearer view is the spot you IDd here, filmed at the south end of that alley looking north, from the bend/intersection almost. No pile of bodies yet. The blurry video is/would be closer/more north, but what seems the minaret there is actually a power pole. It's about where the minaret should be, so maybe he keeps them lined up really good so they come through visibly as one pole. (??) A tree right by it is a match with the map.  --Caustic Logic (talk) 12:54, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think I have seen your mosque before. We should have a list of all mosques and a guide (photos, videos) for identification here: Taldou. The two videos I linked are from the same mosque. A north-south shell has thorn through the north and south facing walls of the middle section of the minaret. The second video is from the street, facing west. There is a set of pillars in front of the house, waiting for the second floor. Been there since 2004, maybe before. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 14:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

August 7th 2012 massacre
I have collected the videos into a playlist and arranged them into what I believe to be the temporal order. (In the end there are duplicates and two videos from some othewr incident.) Note the third body appearing on the truck in the last video.It is strange, how fast the truck speeds away after the first body is thrown in, but it may be just moving closer to the third body. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 20:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)