Houla:Alleged witnesses for a government/Shabiha attack

At this site, there are two groups of witnesses to the Houla massacre; those listed here are generally considered the correct ones and the only ones that matter. They blame the Syrian government artillery and troops, and allied "Shabiha" militia members, for the May 25 attack and eventual massacre of a reported 108 people. 'Any number of the following alleged witnesses could be the same as another – some obvious matches have already been compressed. Different name transliterations are given, but those very similar (like Abdul Razak and Abdel-Razzaq) are clearly, in context, the same family name.

Alex Thomson's visit to Houla
While most if not all other testimonies of this narrative were obtained by indirect means like telephone or Skype, this first set is first-hand.

Two journalist teams, Alex Thomson for British Channel 4 and Catalina Gomez for Colombian El Tiempo visited Taldou together with the UN observers on Sunday, the 27th. They were unable to enter the city center and stopped on main street, where they were told by the army that the massacre was the work of terrorists.

Alex Thomson's team returned on Wednesday the 30th, again with UN observers, and this time made it to what he claimed to be the center of the city (in reality "Revolution Square" on the northern edge of Taldou) where he was "pulled physically from house to house by people desperate to get their story to the outside world"

Channel 4 video reports show him with the UN observers and residents on Wednesday and with the army while shooting is still going on on Sunday.

In a piece run below a Daily Mail article he says that "I was the only journalist to venture into Houla in the days after the atrocity, and saw not only the devastation wrought by the massacre, but also the impact of the shelling which kills and maims civilians daily. What I saw during my time in the town left me in little doubt of the ambiguities of the situation."

Thomson has since tried to investigate another massacre and is convinced that the Free Syrian Army sent him and his team deliberately into a trap to get killed by the Syrian Arab Army, because "Dead journos are bad for Damascus.".

During his visit of the 30th, the first person Thomson cited seems to have functioned as his guide and tells the textbook story of this narrative:

Guide
"Another man suddenly approaches, educated with good English. He has gone through the emotions to reach cold, measured anger. Over the next three hours I will deliberately ask him the same question to see if his story alters in any detail. It does not. He is willing to be interviewed and identified on camera. But to protect him we do not do this. Channel 4 News knows his name and full identity. He describes in detail the world has not heard before what happened on Friday. He matters because over the next five hours we spend in Houla, scores of people will corroborate his story in various details. He describes how there was intense shelling of the ground for several hours. After that the Shabiya – armed militia – entered the town from the southern to south western direction. He says there were around 100 of them dressed in military uniforms. They approached Dam Road which connects the large reservoir to the Houla villages. He says – and all agree – these men were Shia and Alawite who had come from specific Shia/Alawite villages to the south and west of Houla. He names several villages and later we are taken to a rooftop where we can see those villages from the overwhelmingly Sunni town of Houla. Two names come up time and again – Kabu and Felleh. They are so close, not more than two or three mile as the most. He goes on describing how the killers had written Shia slogans on their foreheads as they went house to house searching out and slaughtering Sunni families. He says to us: “They have slaughtered us, they have killed us. When this is all over we will be victorious. And we will go there. And we will find them out and we will slaughter them and we will kill them. We will kill their men, women and children as they killed our men, women and children.” Time again we are told there are many bodies still to be recovered."

Younis, 25
25-year-old Younis, lying in a room with two gunshot wounds in his torso. He’s telling us, weakly, how he was trying to help an 11-year-old boy on Friday when he was injured. The boy was shot dead.

Aya, 15
"A 15-year-old girl lies on another bed not 10 yards away describing how she witnessed the Shabiya militia crouching behind a window as she tried to flee. She too was shot." In another article the name Aya is given, although according to the video from his visit (at 3:40), this is the same alleged victim described below as Noura, apparently a member of the Abdul Razaq family. For tallying purposes, they should be considered the same.

Abdul Hamad, elderly man
Knows not only that his daughter was killed but that her throat was hacked with a knife, it seems, wielded by men who live just a few miles distant.

Abdul Bari, 30
Describes how he came by blast wounds during the protest after prayers on Friday.

Ali Al-Sayed, 11 (stated)


Given as 11 years old, Ali appears closer to eight. He claims to be the only survivor from his household, headed by his father, named either Ali, Shaoqi, or Aref. Speaking to Martin Chulov of the Guardian, Ali said the attackers “spoke with an Allawite accent," and “said they were from Foulah. They were Shabiha. And they were proud of it." "A bald man with a beard shot [my mother] with a machine gun from the neck down. Then they killed my sister, Rasha, with the same gun. She was five years old. Then they shot my brother Nader in the head and in the back. I saw his soul leave his body in front of me." ...

His strong personal conviction that the Syrian people needed foreign intervention is a point he's stated clearly and not contradicted. In the video (3:09-3:38 ),


 * "I demand that the international community stop the killing in Syria & in Houla … We’re being killed in our homes. The international community is sitting, just talking and not doing anything. The people must fight for us, do what they say, and protect us.”

This witness deserves a dedicated page; see Ali Al-Sayed, which covers his testimony in more and inconsistent detail - he repeatedly changes the names and numbers of his family members, reports different orders of attack, different stolen items (a vacuum cleaner or a washing machine?), and implicates his mysterious uncle in the killings.

Maryam Sayid
According to DER SPIEGEL who interviewed Maryam in mid-July, she and her family lived a few houses down the street from Ali's family. No age is given but Maryam looks like about 17 years old.

Her father Muawiya was a police officer who retired after 30 years in the position of colonel. Her brother Ahmed was a soldier in the Army. She says they treated him not well because he was from Houla which made him suspicious. The Army sent him home with a broken leg.

The whole family was home when at around 4:30 pm a group of soldiers passed their house coming from the waterworks in the south and banged on the door. While she says they were not afraid of the army because of her father's and brother's job, they did not open the door.

She says: "And if they were terrorists, how could they get here through the two checkpoints? What we were afraid of were the shells that had been raining down nearby for hours. It was still light outside, and our house is the last one on the street, so we were afraid to run away.

At about 6 p.m., we heard a tank on the street and men on a car who were chanting: 'Shabiha forever! With our blood and our souls, we sacrifice ourselves for you, oh Bashar!' We had never heard that before."

At about 11 p.m., they heard voices through loudspeakers ordering them to turn off all the lights. Then people banged on the front door and demanded to see the women to rape them first before they would kill everybody. While her father opened the door and tried to stall them, explaining that he was a retired police officer and not with the rebels, the family fled through the backdoor across the field, leaving injured brother Ahmed, who was killed together with his father, and Maryam's mother, who hid in the garden and survived.

Maryam says the killers did not care if the family was with the government or not, they just wanted to commit a massacre.

In a short audio snippet cited by NPR apparently from an interview with the UN observers immediately after the event, Maryam's statement is translated as: "Why would we flee and hide with anti-government rebels, she says, if we were with the government? She describes the killers as Alawite thugs wearing all black and chanting sectarian slogans. ... This was a sectarian killing, Maryam says. They killed us because we are Sunni."

Spoken for: an implied ten other survivors we don't hear from, for 'twelve survivors total. “There were 15 of us” in the house, she said. An unstated majority slipped away. Dad stayed behind, Ahmed couldn't run, and they just forgot Sarah. Rebel records agree on only three dead. Of the survivors, she only specifies her mother, who also speaks (below) and offers no further details on the other ten people. Were they relatives, neighbors, a mix, or what? They don't explain.

Hana Harmut Sayyid
"Maryam’s mother," and the wife of police officer Mauwiya Al-Sayyid, Hana spoke with German paper Der Spiegel, featured among their seven witness interviews published July 23. (details forthcoming) She related leaving the house after the rest of those who fled, just before or as the Shabiha and soldiers entered. Left behind were Muawiya, injured son Ahmed who was also an military member, and eight-year-old Sara, who everyone forgot and was still sleeping. Hana says she hid in the flower garden "behind the house," and overheard the whole massacre inside. "I heard everything from my hiding place under the flowers." The attackers ignored Muawiya's pleas to respect his military service and spare his children. They beat and insulted him, and finally killed him, along with Ahmed and Sara.

Some strange features of Hana's account are worthy of note. She was seen looking at someone off screen early in the interview, and whatever she saw made her smile briefly, before her face again went serious. She sounds possibly out-of-character referring to left-behind daughter Sara. "The daughter was sleeping and woke up when she heard voices. She began to cry. She screamed “mama, mama, mama!” She said "the daughter," not "my daughter." The soldiers came in the front of the house facing the road, after driving up on the road. Hana and the others left the back way. When they left, and "got into a car and drove away," she saw them somehow and "they looked happy. They said, “let’s go guys, the job is done!” It's only after that she says "I left the garden and went into the house."

Rasha al-Sayed Ali, 29
Rasha, whose family home is in the south of Taldou, told the UK Guardian: "We looked outside and saw the army checking houses in the neighbourhood. They were near the water plant and one of the tanks started firing on our neighbourhood. They were trying to give cover to soldiers who were starting to break into the houses." Her father answered a knock on the door, unconcerned, but it was Rasha who showed the soldiers her father's ID card proving he was a retired soldier. They didn't seem to care, pushed Rasha and four other women into a corner, beat her father and "shot him in front of us," she said. One explained this was "revenge for you, Imam Ali" (meaning they're Shi'a extremists killing Sunni enemies). She says they decided verbally to kill the children in front of their parents, and shot her in the chest. "After a while, I looked around to see that all my brothers and my mother were sinking in blood. I started to crawl and could hear the cry of my cousin who was only one month old. The baby's mother was dead. Four of my sisters and my pregnant sister-in-law were killed. So was our neighbour. My brother's baby was two months old and sleeping upstairs. They shot her too." Implied death toll (with "all my brothers suggesting 3+) is at least 13, with 2 survivors.

Findings, 2014: As the one who's been correlating stuff, I'll say this account matches no otherwise supported victim set. "Rasha's" Al-Sayed or Al-Sayed Ali family fell through the cracks, with no records for any such people. By size, it's about the same as the UN's "13-15" overall Al-Sayeds from 3 or more homes. But by details, it's no match for even that. With thirteen people killed in one house, a neighbor involved, a pregnant sister-in-law killed, and a weeks-old infants surviving, it sounds almost like the Rasha Abdulrazaq story transfered to an al-Sayed setting - and she is named Rasha. It's almost an alternate version of retired police officer Muawiya Al-Sayed, merged with his soldier son Ahmed, into a retired soldier heading this phantom family. Why the added Ali, not clear. It remains a baffling alleged sub-story, and of course probably untrue.--Caustic Logic (talk) 11:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

2018 article: - clarifying the two stories' similarities and differences and some further extrapolation.

Abdel Razaq Family Survivors
Some of the following are placed within this family by citing around 50 family members killed (perhaps in the same house). Only the Adbel Razaq family is reported as suffering that scale of loss, with 62 total killed, in numerous households, leaving it unlikely that so many could be in one. It's said that the family occupied nine houses near each other next to the city's dam.

In the interest of sorting out who these witnesses are or claim to be, some have been explored in more detail here.

Ayman/Hassan/Abu Firas Abdel-Razzaq
Hassan Abdel-Razzaq spoke in some detail to the UK Daily Mail about his slain family - a wife and five children. Speaking via Skype, and channeled to them by activists in Houla and London, Hassan is an activist himself. He says he was arrested twice in connection with protesting the regime, but never for terrorism. He says he hid nearby while his family was killed that day by the Shabiha. He discovered their bodies shortly afterwards and was transformed, carefully photographing them himself at the mosque to following day so the world would see, for example, his10-year old's palsied brain spilling out of his split skull.

There is also an Abu Firas Abdulrazak, who must be the same man, having the same apparent family, just using a slightly different name. He spoke to Martin Fletcher of the Times in enough detail to establish the link. And the, strangely, there is another Abu Firas Abdul Razaq heading one of the attacked households who, according to alleged witness (Major Jihad Raslan) was "slaughtered" alongside his family. See the main article for explanation.

Opposition records generally refer to him as Ayman Abdulrazaq, survived with an exactly matching family dead.

Maha, 10
The Guardian's "re-constructing the events" spoke with alleged survivor "Maha Abdul Razziq," age 10. She said she was with a 2.5 year-old cousin, Ghufran (girl) when a "security man" with a knife entered the house. He stole the toddler's gold jewelry and shot at both girls, she says, killing neither. Maha was hit in the arm and the leg, Ghufran was missed entirely. Then he returned and shot Ghufran fatally in the chest. Then "My mother was killed by Shabiha. They were shot all together." And so, it says, "Apart from her father who had been working in Lebanon, Maha was the only member of her family to survive." Sobbing, she lists three killed siblings: Yassein age 5, Maya age 3, and Yasser.

By the 2014 list, this should be the family of Yasin Abdulrazaq. Feryal Abed Al-Rahman Abed Al-razaq, mother, 34 years old. Children Yasser (age 5), Yassin (9), Maya (6) - a total of 4 killed, different ages than Maha gave. Earlier lists had missed Maya, having only the mother and the boys listed. All lists to the present seem to miss cousin Ghufran. Akrama Bakour told the BBC about this family: "The third house belongs to Nidal Abdul Razaq, his wife and four of his children were killed, and he and one of his children are still alive." Feyral only had 4 kids it says, and there's the cousin. He seems to be counting her (or whoever that story is really about), though the lists don't seem to. Also note the unnamed boy in yellow, below, asked who he knows that was killed, responds: "Ayham and Shafiq and Yasser and Yasmeen and Maha." He meant Maya, or was confused.

Maha told the Guardian "I went out of the house to see the bodies of the daughters of our neighbour Sameen." This probably refers to Sameer, who by the 2014 list had four daughters killed.

Noura, 15
Injured, apparently shot in the chest, a girl named Noura is shown in an amateur video. Covered in a blanket, a tube in her left side seems to carry away (excess?) blood, and a drip of clear fluid runs into her left arm. She speaks in a small, weak voice, saying in part: "The Army, and Assad's Shabiha" were responsible (per the English subtitles). "First they shot the other family. Then they shot our family. Afterward they went looking for money and gold and took it. ... I pretended I was dead so they wouldn't shoot me again." She says "about 50" of her relatives were killed, apparently but not necessarily the one she crawled over "one by one" in her own house. (0:59-1:10) "All of them ... our family, my siblings, my uncle's family, all of them" were killed, "except me." As noted later (2:32) her mother wasn't killed. "My Mom ran away." Perhaps that was sometime prior to the massacre, for some unrelated reason. Perhaps she escaped the killing and ran away, or was killed trying and she doesn't know. The attackers wore army uniforms, Noura said. ""Come on, let's go shoot them." that's how they spoke. And filthy words." They finished off survivors, except her, and stole their jewelry. "As they were leaving, they found this Qur'an (in her father's pocket). They grabbed it and started stepping on it. (interviewer cites a passage) They stepped all over that Qur'an."

Noura seems about the right age to be the 15-year-old girl Alex Thomson was shown. In fact, she's shown in his video report from May 27, at 3:40 - same face, same injury, different room and clothes, different name: "Aya."

Rasha Abdul Razaq
BBC's report listed Rasha Abdul Razaq and gave her account. In part:
 * "We were in the house, they went in, the Shabiha and security, they went in with Kalashnikovs and automatic rifles. We asked them what was going on ...They took us to a room, and hit my father on the head with the back of a rifle and shot him straight in the chin. ... We were about 15 people. Then they opened fire. After they shot us they started to step on us, and one of the men asked the other to check whether we were all dead. Then they went outside and started shooting in the air. ... I survived with my mother and the one-month-old girl and my sister. They shot at us but we survived."

3 Spoken for: mother, sister, implicitly unrelated infant

Rasha’s Mother
Rasha's unnamed mother also spoke to BBC reporters by phone/Skype. There she said:
 * "He [an attacker] said: 'We are from the mountain there, from Fulla,' so I said: 'We are neighbours then, we don't have any terrorists here,' and he said: 'You are the terrorists'. They thought I was dead. It was thanks to God that I survived. He was shooting my kids and yelling. Please get me and my daughter some protection - we are staying now in different people's houses. We are worried they will liquidate us."

Five Unnamed Females
The following three witnesses are from a May 27 video of five female survivors that seem distinct (by alleged story anyway) from the other sets. This is not as I thought part of the above, Noura and her family. At least not without some correlation to Rasha or another, this scene is apparently its own, with a different motherless 1.5 month-old survivor and other females. Discussed here, details to be worked in below. Khaled Yacoub Oweis for Reuters seems to be describing the same array of people, unnamed:
 * "They entered our homes ... men wearing fatigues herding us like sheep in the room and started spraying bullets at us," said an apparently injured woman in a video released by activists. "My father died and my brother, my mother's only son. Seven sisters were killed," the woman said, lying next to another injured woman and near a baby with a chest wound. (Rasha May also be the "Unidentified girl interviewed by UN obervers" in - to be checked)

Original video of the scene Reuters described seems fairly elusive, but copies of it exist.

Distressed Woman
The one quoted by Oweis, specifies Saad Street, where the Abdulrazaqs were killed. Draining blood into a gallon bucket nearing full. Claims to be the only survivor from a family of at least a mother and ftaher, one brother, and seven sisters besides herself.

Pregnant Woman
She says was standing by a door when they came. Survived somehow. Her baby would have died too if she died. Asks why the living baby nearby had to die. Says Assad must fall, no matter how many women and children need to die.

The Aunt
Says her husband and four daughters were killed while she was beaten and presumed dead. Gives some descriptions of the Shabiha, and says "Alawites. Pigs. They're the ones who killed us."

Spoken for and seen: as described 2-month-old infant, and a girl of about 7-8, both nieces of "the aunt." The older girl hid in the bedding, the infant unexplained.

Displaced Woman
As seen in a Youtube video with English subtitles, several women and dozens of children are crowded together in one room, around 50 people. The unnamed boy in yellow (see above) is present. At least three women offer details or accounts, all conscientiously veiled but for the eyes, seeming extra conservative for Syrians. Their homes and crops and livestock were destroyed; they've been displaced. The first one to speak, with an unusual conical headdress, offers a semi-detailed account:
 * They have raided our home ; one of them stood outside the house, and the other entered in. They first stopped and asked us who was at home. I answered my daughter and the wide of my son, and told them that there were no men inside. There were only children and women. One of the remained outside and the other came in and pushed them to the corner and started firing on them. I survived because I remained standing behind the door. Had he seen me, he would have killed me too.

Killed: At least 10: Children of my daughter (4),children of my son (3), as well as my cousins (3).

Spoken-for survivors: none besides herself.

Note the similarities with the entry below – the families described too are similar, but too different to collapse these survivors into one. They seem to be two different older female miracle survivors who say they hid behind two different doors that day.

Elderly woman
Spoken to by Human Rights Watch, apparently by phone/skype. They heard "At around 6:30 p.m., just as the shelling intensified on parts of Houla, armed gunmen wearing military uniforms attacked homes situated on the outskirts of town on the road leading to the Houla dam, three survivors of the attacks told Human Rights Watch." She said:
 * I was in the house with my three grandsons, three granddaughters, sister-in-law, daughter, daughter in-law and cousin. [On May 25] around 6:30 p.m., before sunset, we heard gunshots. I was in a room by myself when I heard the sound of a man. He was shouting and yelling at my family. I hid behind the door. I saw another man standing outside by the entrance door and another one inside the house. They were wearing military clothes. I couldn’t see their faces. I thought they wanted to search the house. They walked in the house; I didn’t hear them break in because we never lock the doors. After three minutes, I heard all my family members screaming and yelling. The children, all aged between 10 and 14, were crying. I went down on the floor and tried to crawl so I could see what was happening. As I approached the door, I heard several gunshots. I was so terrified I couldn’t stand on my legs. I heard the soldiers leaving. I looked outside the room and saw all of my family members shot. They were shot in their bodies and their head. I was terrified to approach to see if they were alive. I kept crawling until I reached the back door. I went outside, and I ran away. I was in shock so I don’t know what happened later.

Killed: At least nine: six grandchildren (3 boy, 3 girl), cousins and in-laws (3).

Spoken-for survivors: none besides herself.

Note the similarities with the entry above – the families described too are similar, but too different to collapse these survivors into one. They seem to be two different older female miracle survivors who say they hid behind two different doors that day and were joined by no other survivors who were that clever.

Boy, aged 10
Spoken to by Human Rights Watch as well, he said:
 * I was at home with my mother, my cousins, and my aunt. Suddenly I heard gunshots. It was the first time I heard so many gunshots. My mother grabbed me and took me to a barn to hide. I heard men screaming and shouting. I heard people crying especially women. I looked outside the window. I was peeking sometimes but I was afraid they would see me. Men wearing [uniforms] like army soldiers, green with other colors [camouflage] and white shoes, entered our house. They went outside after a couple of minutes. Then across the street I saw my friend Shafiq, 13 years old, outside standing alone. An armed man in military uniform grabbed him and put him at the corner of a house. He took his own weapon and shot him in the head. His mother and big sister – I think she was 14 years old – went outside and started shouting and crying. The same man shot at both of them more than once. Then the armed men left and the FSA soldiers came.

Boy’s mother
The boy's mother gave about the same story: "At around 6:30 – 7:00 p.m., we started hearing the sound of gunshots. They were very close to us. We ran and hid in the barn. After the armed men left, and I heard the sound of their cars driving away, my sister and I went outside. I saw Shafiq [the 13-year-old friend of her son] on the ground dead. I saw three families: three women, two of them with children. All of them were shot. Some were shot in the head and others had multiple shots in the body. One of the children survived. She is 14 years old. She was shot twice in the leg. I also saw my cousin who was shot in the chest. A 13-year-old boy who was paralyzed was shot three times in his chest as well."

The Infant(s)
Clearly not a witness with an account, but a survivor in several households was described as an infant either a month, a moth and a half, or two months old. Rasha Abdulrazaq's family had one (implicitly unrelated, but maybe her cousin) - the other one had her aunt watching out, from a different family - and in the Al-Sayed area is a family just like that but transplanted, with a cousin infant just like this.

One wonders how many actual infants were going around with these different alleged survivors. The simplest thing would just be to keep recycling one 6-week old girl. We only have two visual presentations to compare, and these match, but one of those instances doesn't seem to specify just who she's supposed to be. Actually, neither one does, clearly.

Seen in the video with several other women, she's got blood draining from her tiny bandaged chest, blood-soaked on the side. She seems a little weak but alert and calm - a very strong child. The rebel filming the infant asks the world is she is a terrorist (1:22), as the government there had supposedly implied. Chances are she is not. This same infant with same injuries can apparently be seen in a UNSMIS monitor video of May 26 (2:30 mark, see inset). She's being carried by a man through the crowd outside the mosque, as a female attendant carries the blood can attached already, along with an infusion bag. The latter seems to be unneeded the following day.

Mohammed Faur Abdul Rassak
"Resident of Houla," spoke with German paper Der Spiegel, featured among their seven witness interviews published July 23. He is not, apparently, any direct relation to the targeted Abdel Razaq households. But his accounts is rather helpful in establishing how the Alawite killers accessed the site and massacred over 60 members of that family.
 * My name is Mohammed Faur Abdul Rassaq and I come from Houla. It wasn’t easy to get to this region because there was a massive amount of weapons fire from the military base at the water works. Tanks and heavy artillery were also used.


 * I was located on high ground and could see what was happening in the village of Fullah. There were many men there, more than 400. I also saw more than 10 vehicles. Then four or five more vehicles came. The passengers had machine guns and they were dressed in both military and civilian clothing. They were at the site where the massacre would be carried out.

This part is confusing and likely confused. Fullah/Foulah is 5 km away to the southwest. He specifies the massacre site, on Saad road, so he must have meant Taldou, his own town. There is some pretty high ground around the south of Taldou, so having such a good view shouldn't be ruled out, even as he expands his view to the north of the massacre site:
 * At the same time, another group came from the army checkpoint at Muassasat al-Miyah. The group comprised around 30 people. They entered into the street where the massacre took place. I could see them through the trees, but not very clearly. They met up where the street begins. The vehicles also gathered there. The army came to the site and kept the street entrance under surveillance. I tried to get closer to observe the events more closely. But a man in a military uniform caught me as I was doing so. He ran towards me, but I was able to flee and return to the village.

"Fatima"
A video interview posted May 29 shows a woman laying on a couch, intravenous drip in her right hand, but no obvious injury. According to the English captioning, she reports the army was firing on the city in the afternoon, so she took the kids to a neighbor’s house (apparently of the Abdel Razaq family). Her husband had just left to check on their cattle (sheep), and she sent her uncle to retrieve him. Her uncle "called us and told us that the soldiers are surrounding my husband and shooting the cattle. Then some of the neighborhood young guys went to help my husbandfrom the soldiers. But my uncle never came back.” She stayed hidden as the shooting continued, saw soldiers break intio her vacant house, cursing, enter other homes, shooting and leaving. She called one house, and the occupants were alive. The soldiers were just "looking for things." She describes the plunderers as “Assad’s army soldiers, and they were Alawites, and I saw their faces.”

“After a while, they came to us and started stabbing us and kicking our faces and bodies. They kicked my young kids and put us inside a room, then he fired at us directly using AK47. Then another was finishing those who are not dead. Then he killed everyone in the house. There were around 40 to 50 kids and women inside the house. Then I pretended I was dead and crawled out of my neighbor’s house to my house.” She says she was shot, apparently in the abdomen (“a burning rod inside my stomach”) and her children all killed (three boys aged 6, 4, and 18 months, and a 5-year-old girl). She received calls from a distant cousin and a neighbor, and told all the story: “everyone is killed around me.”

Her husband turned up later and asked “what happened to you, Fatima?” (Meaning 'baby's nurse,' this isn't necessarily her name) He had been off leaving his cattle in a a nearby town, he explained, and reported back they had found more bodies there, including kids kidnapped from Houla. Hearing this, she remembered the soldiers “were cursing a lot at us, calling us animals. I remembered one soldier saying to another “let’s take this kid with us. … I think they took my son. Please, if he is alive, I want him back. My son is only 4 years old. It really burns my heart. Please God, take revenge for me.”

Anonymous, survivor
This female alleged survivor says she was at home with her husband, a military service member, and their children (no details). She opened the door to the Shabiha, who looked like army, for a presumed inspection, but the soldiers told her "your turn is next."
 * So I got my husband's army service card, I thought maybe they would not bother with us when they see it. But I only survived because one of them shot another by mistake, and he yelled: 'I need help, Fakher was shot'. That kept them busy while we ran away, bullets were flying around us, from the army and the shabiha."

The final "us" suggests someone made it away with her, and no one is clearly described as being killed, although presumably someone was. Unclear.

Anonymous, survivor
She told the BBC she hid behind the door as Shabiha took her three brothers outside. Then she hid in the attic as they were shot. After coming outside, "I saw bodies, I couldn't recognise my kids from my brothers. It was indescribable. I have three children, I lost three children. I am shaking, I'm shaking as I'm speaking to you." Clearly, a confusing account. Was it three brothers, three children, or both that were killed? There is one house with both (Aref Al-Sayed) but she can't be the mother of those children and also a sister of their father and uncles... this may not even be trying to correlate with anything real.

Um Mohammed, witness
Spoken to by the BBC. "Um" means "mother of," so this is an anonymous female.
 * "We fled Friday night... They are targeting us with rockets and killing people… We fled through the plantations bombed here, bombed there. I don't know how we made it to the good people. As we walked the snipers targeted us, we hide between the plantations."

This is a very vague account, doesn't even specify who was doing all this shelling. It could go on the other list almost as well, but for the fact this is one of the people steered to the BBC, suggesting they meant to blame the government. Still, no specifics on the massacre, not a survivor, for tallying purposes.

Um Abdullah, witness
Spoken to by the BBC. "Um" means "mother of," so this is an anonymous female.
 * "Rockets and bombardments everywhere … I don't have any news of my own family. Why are you not intervening? All the corpses are piling up. If it was a foreign country all countries would have intervened. Come and remove all these corpses from the streets."

Same analysis as above, but clearer (implied) government blame. Also not to be taken as a massacre survivor, unless one lets their imagination run away with the lack of news about her family.

Anonymous, witness
"One resident of Taldou told Human Rights Watch" the following: "At around 2:30 p.m., the army located on the outskirts of town started shelling the neighborhood. Initially, they used tanks, but after couple of hours they started using mortars. The shelling was coming from the direction of the Air Force military college located at the entrance of Houla. Around 7:00 p.m., the shelling intensified and whole buildings were shaking. The army started firing some sort of rockets that would shake an entire area."

Further Arabic Language Video Interviews
Later in the research, we started looking at Arabic language interviews of alleged survivors/witnesses, as found on Youtube. There are quite a few of these, only some yet listed. For the time being, we cannot discern just what they are saying.

Unnamed Boy in yellow
Obviously, most likely, a member of one of the above families, but unspecified, this boy was late to be added to the list. A video dated and posted May 26 explained in the title "الحولة طفل يروي قصته مع المجزرة " ("Hula child tells his story with the massacre") as description: "المكتب الاعلامي في الحولة" (Houla Information Office). We cannot tell yet what the boy, aged about 12, is saying. He may not claim to be another miracle survivor, but must apparently be some kind of alleged witness. He sounds rather normal and non-shattered, seems uninjured, and is surrounded by a resting toddler and other, somewhat inquisitive children. One of these, an older girl to his right, is also eager to talk. But she also starts smiling, and only by some effort manages to not laugh, as the horror of the previous day is allegedly re-lived next to her (see inset). It's contagious; even the boy cracks a slight smile, but not even the hint of a giggle (0:12-0:16). The camera pans out right there, then back on the boy alone, face straightened, and the girl is no longer consulted. He tells what he saw... Another posting with subtitles helps "Al-Holeh, 26 May 2012 - a child relates his story":
 * The army entered homes and started destroying homes. My mother told us to hid in the animals' paddocks for a half hour. [this is where the girl starts giggling]. When we came out, we saw blood everywhere. ... I saw the neighbors slaughtered, old and young. ... a little boy about this size, I saw him slaughtered. Q: Were any of your friends killed? A: Yes, Ayham and Shafiqand Yasser and Yasmeen and Maha. Q: What would you like to say to Bashar? A: I want to tell him to go away and leave us in peace.

More seriously, the girl answers the same question: "go away and get your forces away from us."

A Family
It's not entirely clear here who survived and/or witnessed what. They're in at least two videos: Hula family massacre survivor tells her tragedy: A very impressive clip tragedy worth looking at it - Hula family survivor recounts tragedy. In the first video, older man starts out speaking, surrounded by six veiled women, one young man, and at least four children. As he gestures for perhaps cutting of bodies, his voice starts cracking with emotion, and his presumed wife starts joining him (1:00) in recounting and even sobbing. A girl in the front (not apparently the same one seen smiling above) can’t stop smiling and laughing at it, sometimes covering her face, sometimes not bothering. At 1 :25 she seems to get confirmation that the other girl to her right finds it kind of funny too, but her self-control is better.

Unnamed Girl in pink
1 6 Al Hoole Homs أوغاريت الحولة حمص, طفلة نجت من المجزرة تروي قصتها امام Ugarit News video, June 1: A little girl in pink, no notable injuries, shyly tells her story, without laughing or even smiling. Her nervious mother smiles with tenderness while holding a soda can with a string or wires stretching out of it (meaning unclear), and a man behind her displays a baby for the camera. The man in the striped shirt apparently interviewing here looks like one of the prominent "Free Houla" activists (ID forthcoming).

Bereaved Mother
a woman who lost girl speech because witnesses Hula massacre

Ali (2017)
This was published on the five-year anniversary in 2017 by SMART News Agency, a survivor talks five years on (Arabic) story and video seemingly shot in still-rebel-held Taldou, perhaps on Main Street. The text, translated, says
 * "Ali" survivor of the massacre of Houla talking about his life on the fifth anniversary of the passage On the 25th of May 2017, the "Smart" camera met with "Ali" ... Characters by appearance: 1 - Naji of the massacre called, Ali. 2 - Ali's brother, named Mohammed.

So this shouldn't be the famous little Ali al-Sayed with no such surviving brother ... before, anyway. But he does look fairly like him, grown up. Allegedly 11 at the time but seeming about 9, he'd be 16 or 13-14 now, and this guy looks about 16-17. His little brother (if that's him at 1:34) seems too young to have been Ali back then. Coincidence? Maybe content translation will help clarify. --Caustic Logic (talk) 11:23, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Zaman al-Wasl 2016 Interviews

 * In 4th anniversary, survivors tell about Houla Massacre Zaman al-Wasl, May 25, 2016

"Abu Arslan" said “my father asked me to go up to loft of the bathroom in our flat until the regime campaign was over" because he was "wanted for military service" (draft dodger). He went up and hid, but from the roof he heard
 * “the first sentences that the regime thugs said when they entered our house (we will take revenge on them), and at that time I realized that all my family and relatives would be killed ... after that I came down from the loft, I found my mother and father and 3 siblings killed with bullets, some of them slaughtered with knives, so I went to the town and told them what happened, so they transported the victims to the mosque that lies in the north of the village..." 

With a draft-age male losing a mother, father, and 3 siblings, if he claims a specific family, it's probably Moustafa Hasan Abed Al-Razq, 55 years old, father, Eitidal Shafq Abed Al-razaq, 50 years old, mother, and daughters Mouna (27), Zeynab (24), and Fatemah Moustafa Abed Al-razaq (22).

"Abu al-Bara’a" said "the regime forces’ intention on that terrible day was to kill the highest number of civilians" and he lists 3 massacres that day. 1) "The first started during the exit of the congregation from Friday prayers as missiles and rockets started to fall from the water institution checkpoint, coming down on them like rain which pushed the rebels to attack the checkpoint at the military security distribution center at the entrance of Taldou (the house of al-Sheikh Mohammad Ali Mashal formerly)." (This probably means military intelligence headquarters)

2) "The second massacre was in al-Sad neighborhood, that happened while the rebels were busy with liberating the distribution center checkpoint, between the afternoon and sunset prayers. ... regime thugs killed 99% of those present at the time in the al-Sad neighborhood, and they did not stop until half an hour before sunset." (He seems to admit the MIHQ was overrun in the later afternoon, something they never acknowledged back in 2012)

3) "The third massacre happened around midnight after the migration of around 80% of the residents of Taldou to other al-Houla neighborhoods. A tank and pick-up truck moved from the water institution checkpoint, loaded with security personal and regime thugs, towards the southern entrance of Taldou, they surrounded a small neighborhood where only two families remained from the al-Sayed family, including a retired civilian police colonel who did not move thinking the regime would not come close to him." He cites the famous escaped wife and daughter interviewed by Der Spiegel. (there never was proof these killings happened after midnight. They may specify that since the government even admits having partial control of that area by about 11pm. That they don't put it any earlier shows they're a bit worried about that disagreement - it might become known rebels were in charge all over until that time.)

Mahmoud Al Houli
Al-Houli means 'the one from Houla,' and he may or may not be. He's clearly an "activist," and spoke to CNN; "Al Houli was clear who he held responsible for the tragedy in Houla," and he said "he was at a protest rally in the town on Friday when The military started shooting at the demonstration." Further, he said:
 * "After that, thugs from the regime came from the surrounding towns, to make a big massacre. While the men were at the demonstration, they attacked the women and children with knives and machine guns."
 * He said he believed the men who carried out the attack were trying to incite a sectarian conflict in the region.
 * We are human beings, not animals ... I would like to call for the international community and the U.N. to save our souls....

Rebel Al Houli deplored the situation in rebel-held Al-Houla:
 * "The situation here is very bad, very, very bad. There is a severe shortage of medical supplies in the local hospitals. Lots of people were injured, but there is a shortage of supplies to treat them with ... no food or medical supplies can come in. The electricity has been cut off. Things are desperate. [...] "[Bashar Al-Assad] needs to leave Syria and get out of the country -- that's the best solution. If he leaves, we can go back to normal life." [...] As he spoke to CNN, a voice boomed from a loudspeaker nearby. "Another person has died," he explained. "They are making the announcement at the mosque."

Defector Major Jihad Raslan


"A lot of them were bald and many had beards," he said. "Many wore white sports shoes and army pants. They were shouting: 'Shabiha forever, for your eyes, Assad.' It was very obvious who they were. We used to be told that armed groups killed people and the Free Syria Army burned down houses," he said. "They lied to us. Now I saw what they did with my own eyes."

Raslan also spoke with German paper Der Spiegel, featured among their seven witness interviews published July 23, detailing the houses he was able to inspect within minutes of the killings on Saad Road. The inset image is from that interview (details at the above link, full transcript on the discussion page there).

Akrama Bakour, FSA
A Free Syrian Army fighter given as Akrama Bakour spoke to reporters from the BBC by phone, apparently, after the massacres. It should be noted there is normally no Arabic name Akrama. It is used in place names, but with men it's Akram, meaning generous. In case it matters, the extra syllable is likely the remainder of a dropped middle name.

Anyway, this other Bakour told the BBC:
 * There were two massacres. The first happened on the Sadd road and started at around 2:30pm on Friday afternoon. The second massacre happened around 11pm, on the road at the main entrance of Taldou, facing the military security point. On the Fulla-Taldou road - 500m to 700m from Fulla village - this village is supportive of the regime - a van, two pickup trucks and a group of motorcycles came from that village. They entered the neighbourhood, and met a shepherd at the entrance. His name is Mahmoud al-Kurdi, and he was with his daughter-in-law and his four grandsons. They shot them, killing them all except the daughter-in-law. She was shot in the thigh and belly area but she is still alive. They ... entered the house of Samir Abdul Razaq ... The next house they entered was the house of Qutayba Abdul Razaq ... The third house belongs to Nidal Abdul Razaq.

He then goes into detail Abdul Razaq sub-families killed at the three houses, some detailed information.

Malik Baqur, FSA
"A military lieutenant and deserter," Malik Baqur spoke with German paper Der Spiegel, featured among their seven witness interviews published, in English, July 23. Lieutenant Baqur says he helped inspect the massacre sites of the Abdul Razaq family, and witnessed the killers leaving in the direction of Foulah. However, his account is confused, with two different versions to Spiegel, between the text summary and the actual video interview, and an unclear timeline.

In text, Malik was "in his cousin's house on Sadd Street when he heard that armed men were coming down from Fullah to Taldou." He remained inside. "Until six o'clock, there was so much shelling that I was afraid to go outside. At about 5:30 p.m., I saw 40 men in uniforms and civilian clothing going up to Fullah," or departing after the massacre. But in his video interview, he says he is "with the Free Syrian Army" perhaps even then, and and "we demonstrated on May 25, after Friday prayers" until the shooting started. Then they sent the noncombatants home for safety while "I stayed with my colleagues at the demonstration site" in the north of town. He then heard, from unspecified "troops" on Saad Street, about the invaders from the Alawite villages of Foullah and Alkabo, and the Shia village Algur. So he walked down Saad Street, stopping 300 meters away from the massacre area, at 6:30. There he watched the killers depart almost all the way back to Foulah.

After this, Malik says he helped his acquaintance Jihad Raslan inspect the homes of those killed. Therefore, see Major Jihad Raslan for a little more detail.

Mohammed Tayyib Baqur, FSA
In their interview series published July 23, 2012, Der Spiegel reports the curious story of yet another Mr. Baqur:


 * Colonel Mohammed Tayyib Baqur, who served in the Syrian army for two-thirds of his life and deserted a few weeks ago, worked most recently in the political division of the Defense Ministry. He now reports that, on May 28, he received a call from Jamil Hassan, the head of Syrian Air Forces intelligence and one of the leading members of the regime: "He told me to come in on June 2. He pointed out that I was from Houla, and that an international conspiracy against Syria was underway. For that reason, he wanted me to find a few people, as poor as possible, from Houla or the surrounding area. I was to bring them to Damascus so that they could circulate the regime's version of the massacre. He said that the people from Houla would be paid, and so would I. Then he called his office manager and told him to give me 25,000 Syrian pounds." This is the equivalent of slightly more than €300 or roughly $385. After 35 years in the army, says Baqur, he realized that the time had come to change sides. "I didn't want to be part of it anymore, so I brought my family to safety and fled."

Maysara al-Hilawi, activist
"Those who tried to escape were machinegunned and the bodies of nine men and six women who ran away were found today among the farmlands. There are more bodies of victims near roadblocks which we cannot reach." He said 63 people from a single extended family of Sunnis called Abdelrazzaq were killed in their houses. "The shabbiha came back at 2.30 in the morning and killed more than 15 people from the al-Sayyed family in their houses. A baby, Ali Adel al-Sayyed, miraculously survived," Hilawi said, referring to another family of Sunnis.

Hamza Omar, activist
Spoken to by BBC over the phone lines (details forthcoming)

Tally of Alleged Survivors
In the interest of tallying alleged survivors who aren't witnesses, as well as ones who are, here we will collect those spoken for but not heard from.

Note: Incomplete list. Arabic accounts with unclear details aren't included or excluded yet. Some other sources imply survivors not mentioned here - like the several male heads of Abdulrazaq homes who AKrama Bakour lists as surviving, often with one child. Does this mean by being elsewhere? (that would make them not count here as a "survivor") or by escaping/playing dead? So the full list is surely at least a little bigger than this. If more details emerge, they'll be considered.

Al-Sayed: 4 witnesses, 15 alleged survivors
 * 1) Ali Adel (should be Ali Aref but oh well...) speaks of no other survivors.
 * 2) Rasha (Sayed-Ali) – speaks for an infant survivor only, from 13 in the house.
 * 3) Hana Harmut - speaks of daughter and others
 * 4) Maryam Muawiya: speaks of implied total 12 survivors out of 15. Specifies mother only.

Abdulrazaq: 11 witnesses, at least 16-17 alleged survivors
 * 1) Hassan/Ayman/Abu Firas: speaks for no other survivor, 6 killed.
 * 2) Noura/Aya: Implied: 10 killed, 4 survived. Speaks for her mother who “ran away.”
 * 3) Rasha – speaks of her mother (listed) and for 3 others: sister (unnamed) and implicitly unrelated infant girl (app. her cousin Zahraa Al-Hussein)
 * 4) Rasha's Mother: speaks of “my daughter” only
 * 5) The  Aunt - speaks for two surviving nieces – one a young infant, the other a girl about 8
 * 6) Distressed woman - no surviving family - blames Shabiha pigs.
 * 7) Pregnant woman - no others mentioned
 * 8) Boy tp HRW: speaks of teenage girl survivor (maybe Noura/Aya)
 * 9) Boy's mother speaks for (same) teenage girl survivor
 * 10) Elderly woman – speaks of no survivors
 * 11) Displaced woman – speaks of no survivors

Others who count as survivors, not just witnesses: Total=3 witnesses, 4-(6?) survivors - Other Arabic, none ready to call, several likely, possibly overlap with some of the above. (Boy in yellow might be 10 and spoke to HRW – both mention a Shafiq killed and hiding in a barn, as well as not being targeted themselves, apparently)
 * 1) Fatima, – thinks her 4-year-old son survived but was kidnapped – by her own husband who was a leader of the Shabiha! Not clear enough to count. Just her then.
 * 2) Anonymous 1:  these 2 count as survivors. One speaks of no survivors aside from herself.
 * 3) Anon 2: The other one suggests other(s) ran with her but gives no number. At least one other implied survivor and perhaps, let's say, (3?)

Total Total = at least 34-37 alleged survivors, at least 18 on record as witnesses.