Talk:Tremseh massacre

Thanks, CE, for starting this. Will be adding, but not soon, FYI. --Caustic Logic 20:45, 13 July 2012 (EST)

VDC Database
This might deserve a section before summary. This page never did get too crowded yet. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC) All Tremseh martyrs July 12 = 63 Notes: "In the Tremseh massacre, where the village was intensely shelled followed by attack by Shabiha, which resulted in the martyrdom of tens due to shelling or public execution"

56 of 63 are listed as adult males, any number of these being the described fighters who lost that day. But only one rebel is listed for July 12: Ahmad Hajak, FSA I think (Lieutenant/ Battalion Alb Arsalan). One more rebel is listed as dying the next day in Tremseh. The rest of the men are listed as local civilians - none a fighter, none from elsewhere. From: show all, martyred in: Tremseh: VDC confirms one non-local killed - the mentioned Ahmad Hajak, hailing from nearby Hama: Aqraba. Certainly no foreigners, among those who died, and got mentioned here. The death toll does seem substantially lower than it should be. And some of them likely are local civilians killed at home. There's moderate family clustering, which could happen with brothers in the same rebel group, or brothers taken by rebels from their homes. Names = Shaman x 3, Darwish x 3, Shbat x3, Najm x 3, al-Kharashi x 2, Satouf al-Harmalawi x 3...

Wife of Faruq al-Bakour, not of Mohammad Bakour. Zero girls, six boys, aged 17, 16, 13, 13, 12, 6. Mainly, fighting-age males were killed. Other women, teenage girls, younger children may have been overcome too but spared death.

Of possible note: three men from Souran (20-25 km due east) died the day before (the only 3 from Hama recorded dying that day) - kidnapping - execution. --Caustic Logic (talk) 10:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)