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Perhaps mainpage may benefit from a disclaimer of sort, contains HUMOR and/or PARODY, etc..., if you are allergic try google, etc.  --Resup (talk) 16:39, 14 January 2017 (UTC)


 * The wiki would certainly benefit from Petri returning to on-topic contributions. I guess this stuff is better than nothing, but I'm not sure about it. --CE (talk) 01:38, 15 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I have not seen that release is from Cyberberkut. "Our whistleblowers gave us information that ..." . This implies that they are not in a position to be sure that the release is genuine (and also creates 'leaked not hacked' clause). I am not sure exactly how this source operates at present, but in general  I'd think that it would go by some generic security-type code of conduct (not academic or philosophic). This includes responding in kind (ответка -Rus.). If 'the West' allows itself to fill the missing details with own imagination, so can we. There is also an intermediary ('whistle-blower') here who may play by own rule-book, we do not know. Recent Buzzfeed unload was curiously timed before Pres.-Elect Trump testimony and confirmation hearings, which does suggest it may be not exactly accidental, but we do not know who is playing this game. It could go via Republican line too. As for Hillary, as suggested on the mainpage, she does not seem to be in the driving seat right now, and that seat appears empty at the moment, but I really have no clue. I think disclaimer is sufficiently generic and legalistic to pinpoint Soros, this type of disclaimer will go with any financial or legal communication and may be routinely inserted in all emails. So this is along the lines of filling the blanks with imagination. Enough people would want to do it (as alleged), and enough other people would be happy to learn it was evil Soros behind. Unsure what cosmic good we can do about all this on our end.--Resup (talk) 02:26, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Also: Nikolai Patrushev ("ответка"?), 'Patrushev: US use internet servers for unauthorized collection of data', preview of the full version to appear on Monday, by Ivan Egorov, Rossiiskaya Gazeta (wiki), 15 Jan. 2017 (+Rusvesna (brief version) --Resup (talk) 13:14, 15 January 2017 (UTC)