File talk:Zablatani tower.jpg

Was watching the latest ANNA news output and found myself challenged to locate that view, as it looked reasonably easy to do. ;o)

The tower is quite close to the Damascus center already, and it's an excellent spot with view over the whole city. Jobar is still the center of fighting and it seems the Hafez Al Assad highway/"southern bypass", running roughly parallel to those market halls in the lower right corner of the pic and maybe coming "in sight" at the horizon to the right, still separates battle zone to the west of it and inhabited zone (i.e. Zamalka) to the east of it. Couldn't find proof of Zamalka being still inhabited, though. Just some remarks that they are taking care to keep Jobar and Zamalka cut-off by operations on the highway. --CE (talk) 17:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The missile shown in the video is powered by a 107mm motor and has what looks a factory manufactured warhead (spun metal nosecone?). Other instances have been seen, including instances captured by insurgents where the nosecone is more visible (can't find link just now). It appears to be a regularly manufactured munition rather than improvised.


 * This is a different type of missile to the Hezbollah improvised version also used in Syria that uses ex-US military tubing for the payload Hezbollah IRAM, Qusayr
 * --DEADBEEF (talk) 02:33, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * No, this is not a 107 mm rocket. The 107 mm only has 6 + 1 nozzles in its boilerplate. This one has 10 like 140 mm and 128 mm. Besides, the size does not match. This is 140 mm across or maybe 128 mm. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 03:50, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * NO No. It has 8 nozzles. Stop at 1:11 and count them. 8 in a circle, possibly one more in the centre but more likely that's an ignition connector.


 * The 140mm has 10 nozzles. The video is not a 140mm - see 140mm rocket


 * The 128mm has 7. Six in a circle and one in the centre. See


 * The 107mm has the number and configuration of nozzles seen here. See 107mm rocket Note also the apparent diameter and aspect ratio. It's a perfect match to the video.--DEADBEEF (talk) 04:18, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, you are right, the rocket has 8 nozzles, not 10 as I stated. There may be many different nozzle types for each diameter. The examples you chose are however not representative of the sizes. I do not think the rocket seen in the defense.gov photo is 107 mm in diameter. Whoever made the image caption does not know rockets. The image of the 128 mm rocker you linked to is not the same Yugoslav type used by rebels in Syria. Here is a typical baseplate of a 107 mm rocket.
 * Here is the Brown Moses story on Syrian IRAMs. These seem to be the same type as shown on the Zablatani tower video.
 * P.S. – I did not know they make 122 mm artilery rockets in Abu Dhabi. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 04:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Even your good friend Brown Moses says it's a 107mm rocket on his page Brown Moses story.
 * If this fails to convince you here are some more photos of 107mm rockets. They appear identical in size to the missile in the video. Check carefully the size in comparison to the shoe/boot at 1:11
 * 25 May Deployment
 * Israeli Images